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Click a link and need to go back 10x to get back. Yes, I enjoy the footballs.

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[-] officermike@lemmy.world 210 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I also hate back-button hijacking. I suspect some websites do it to artificially force more page views for ad revenue. Try a long-press on the back button to view the history for that browser tab and click on the most recent page you think won't redirect.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 month ago

I usually right click the back button and go 2 entries back. Done.

Microsoft also does this a lot on some of their sites.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 30 points 1 month ago

Usually with this, it's like 20 entries, so pushes everything else off.

The ones where it's only a couple entries mostly seem to be the ones where there's multiple articles on a single page and it's at least might be attempting to be helpful?

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 14 points 1 month ago

I usually just block the site.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Youtube does it, and it just continues to blast the wrong video you accidentally just auto-started because instead if fucking off, it shows other videos with the bad video getting just reduced.

Aaargh for the state of todays internet

[-] CyanFen@lemmy.one 44 points 1 month ago

I use YouTube on desktop daily and I've never had this happen to me.

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[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 109 points 1 month ago

This could easily be fixed by the browsers but they don't. Sure wish these back button tricks would stop. Especially news sites try to keep you from getting back to your search and makes your page refresh over and over. I wonder if that behavior counts as hits to their advertisers.

[-] subtext@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

I just default to opening in a new tab because of shitty UX like this

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I don't know about "easily." replaceState() is actually intended to make single-page apps easier to use, by allowing you to use your back button as expected even when you're staying on the same URL the entire time.

Likewise, single-page apps are intended to be faster and more efficient than downloading a new static page that's 99.9% identical to the old one every time you change something.

Fixing this bad experience would eliminate the legitimate uses of replaceState().

Now, what they could do is track your browser history "canonically" and fork it off whenever Javascript alters its state, and then allow you to use a keyboard shortcut (Alt + Back, perhaps?) to go to the "canonical" previous item in history instead of to the "forked" previous item.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago

Also: Algorithmic generated feeds where you try to click on one thing, but you click on the next thing in the list and when you click back, the feed looks completely different because it has new information on you. That thing you wanted to click on is gone and will never return.

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's actually how I do my Lemmy feed. I have one chance to comment on a thread and if I don't do it, when the page refreshes I lose it forever.

I've learned to accept that there are just some things the universe never wanted me to comment on.

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[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 month ago

I don't understand why browsers support this "functionality".

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 54 points 1 month ago

It's not for this, of course. It's because in the world of single page applications built in react and angular where there is no physical back, like no actual server page to go back to just JavaScript, you have to code in what the back button means. Even though there's no server calls to ask for a new page. New page. Most people still expect that forward and back will still go forward and back in standard navigation.

Sites like this it's pretty clear that they just overwrite that with the last 20 calls to their own page, but the alternative is that single page applications would not be able to have forward or back functionality

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[-] RedStrider@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

I was just thinking about this.

Super annoying because it can actually be fixed by using History.replaceState() over History.pushState().

I guess the reason they do it is either to keep you stuck on their sucky site, or just incompetence.

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

You're right, but "incompetence" seems harsh. Maybe I'm just sensitive today.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Hanlon's Razor: Don't attribute to malice what can be sufficiently explained by stupidity.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

I feel like when you're talking corporations, hanlons razor needs to be reversed. Never attribute to stupidity what could be adequately explained by malice. We'll call it Nolnahs razor.

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[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Microsoft does this with the Xbox forums and it bothers me so much

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 38 points 1 month ago

MS does this with ALL their forums, and it’s cunty.

[-] dafo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

MS does this. They do it everywhere.

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[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 month ago

Open all links in new tabs.

[-] tyrant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This sounds horrible. I already have a tab issue

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[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 39 points 1 month ago

Couldn't be me. Opening links in a new tab master race

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I firmly believe this is how we wound up with tabs as a feature in the first place.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Three things.

  1. Yes. Sometimes this is malice. Sometimes this is an attempt to drive impressions and page views.

  2. This can also be caused by poorly configured web applications that update in real time. If, say, some sports website is giving you real-time data about the game as it progresses, a poorly configured web application might be creating a dynamic URL for every change. When you access the older page, it will be instructed to take you to the most recent data, so pressing back is taking you to old data on that page, and then immediately realizing that data is old so refreshing it with the most relevant data.

  3. This is a super common misconfiguration in single page web applications. Domain.com will take you to an application that renders at domain.com/en-us/home. Pressing back takes you to domain.com, and guess what happens next?

This is basically 99.99% of these cases. I would say if its on some shitty news site with 1000 ads that somehow sneak by AdBlock and UBlok Origin, it's case 1. Otherwise, it's case 2 or 3.

The picture instance is either case 1 or 2.

[-] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I know this site, it's 1 for sure

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[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Added to my blocked websites

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 month ago

Oh man I hate this shit so much.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago

Firefox should really implement a feature that hides this bullshit from the previous sites menu

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

This is one of the absolute greatest reasons to support opening most everything in a new tab (as long as you don't end up like my mom who at one point had over 100 tabs on her phone). Doesn't matter if it's a link from the same website, from a search engine, or whatever else there is. New tab.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Then on android Firefox you accidentally hit the back button and it closes the tab and you can't go forward and you already navigatedc away from the originating page on the other tab forcing you to open your history and try to figure out where the hell it is.

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[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

I've always wondered. Is there really a benefit to a ton of redirects like that? Like, do they gain anything by making it harder to back out?

Or is it just extremely incompetent website programming?

[-] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

more ads displayed with each redirect i guess?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I always just assumed it was a form of "dark pattern" meant to try to stop people from leaving their website once they've entered (e.g., coming from a different site, you can't just hit backspace or click back to immediately exit their site. You're stuck now).

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago

microsoft does this with their community support/forums/whatever and it's annoying when you're trying to look up a problem in google. :///

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[-] kootepe@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago

Holy smokes I never realized this intended behaviour, but of couse it is...

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[-] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago

You've reminded me of a similar frustration that I've never found the answer to - though it may be adblock related - in that whenever I open a link to eBay it completely wipes the history for that tab. Or possibly it opens a new tab and kills the parent. Either way I always forget about it until the next time and then it drives me mad all over again.

[-] 4am@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Reddit has been doing this when I click a result from a Google search (yeah, sometimes you have to)

It’s fucking annoying and I hope whatever JavaScript trick lets them do this gets blocked

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[-] ober9000@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Aren't they scamming their advertisers too? Because if you click the back button a bunch of times it's gonna reload a bunch of them on every click. At least if your internet is fast enough.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

What makes me angry here is, I am 90% sure the browsers could code against this.

If the user clicks a control on a webpage one time, the stack can declare "One user click! You have earned yourself One (1) navigation." Then, the click activates some JavaScript that moves you to a new webpage. That new webpage has an auto-loader redirect that instead runs a 300ms timeout, and then takes you to some other page. The browser, meanwhile, has seen this, and establishes "We are still only operating off of that One (1) click. So, instead of adding a new page to the user history, we'll replace that first navigation."

I have yet to hear a satisfactory reason as to why that's not possible.

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

just click again, but fast enough to get the redirect, but not too fast to miss it and double click, and try not to do it a third time or you're going back a few ages.

[-] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Or right click the back button

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 24 points 1 month ago

Or ctrl+w to close the fucking site and never come back.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

MASSIVELY infuriating.

[-] polle@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago

"mildly" infuriating

[-] QuestionMark@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I think there was an extension named Skip Redirect that solved this issue...

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