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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago

How does that work with the tax exempt status from IRS?

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago

Evangelicals have been trying to get rid of the Johnson Amendment for many years so they can receive tax freedom and engage in politics more freely: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/22/596158332/another-effort-to-get-rid-of-the-johnson-amendment-fails

[-] nemonic187@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

So they’re ballot harvesting? I thought rePUBEicans were against ballot harvesting. Does that mean that 2000 mules was a DIY video instead of false and misleading information?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Their accusations are usually confessions, after all..

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago

Boy are they going to be upset when they learn what Dejoy did to USPS processing infrastructure putting mail-in ballot processing at risk. Truly a "leopards ate my face" event here.

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Nah, they'll just blame Muslims or immigrants or something fucking stupid, they're not intelligent people.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Haitians are eating our ballots!

Oh, damn, I just found my ballot in the basement. Oops!

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Can someone explain to me how four years into the Biden administration, the USPS is still saddled with that Trump-era turd?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Podcast I've been listening to for years has been signing off with "Fire DeJoy!!!" on nearly every episode... (The Professional Left)

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I need a new podcast, pitch it to me?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Oh, The Professional Left. I meant to add that...

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago

if slate is to be trusted, it's not trivial: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/biden-cannot-fire-usps-louis-dejoy.html

The republican party is a pervasive blight on our government.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Tax 'em. They don't get to have religious exemptions AND be proactively politcal for their own gain.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 months ago

Besides the obvious hypocrisy, one thing to get from this is that conservative leaders understand that you need to organize to win elections. Let's make sure they're out organized

Find how to register to vote for where you are

Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online

Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

They're not skeptical of mail-in ballots, they're skeptical of non conservative mail-in ballots

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago

Religion is a cancer and the ignorant and afraid are its malignant tumors.

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I bet they're helping they choose candidates too, but let's not talk about that.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

ZOMG, are they doing....ballot harvesting?

/clutches pearls

I thought that when organizations like ACORN did something like this it was going to be the end of civilization and they had to be taken down with nonsense from the likes of James O'Keefe, for the good of mankind?

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Churches are social organizing spaces, they have been involved in politics since the very beginning. As long as they are doing it the right way, by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate, and running voter registration drives, driving people to the polls, that's good. We want more people to vote.

It's not hypocritical to once be skeptical and then learn that something is OK. That's called learning.

I blame people for being obtuse when they were complaining with zero evidence that there was a problem, I don't blame people at all for working legally to increase voting.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

They often endorse conservative candidates outright or imply who to vote for through heavy social pressure.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago
[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago

There's zero evidence that it's happening "often" so I'm mostly using the space to point out that there's more to "church" in America than the white evangelical politics-forward churches they see represented on TV. Those pastors are on TV because they are the exception.

[-] shani66@ani.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Man you've got me conflicted. On the one hand, Internet edgelord atheists are annoying twats when it comes to projecting their specific Christian trauma onto the world, but that doesn't mean they are wrong about Christianity specifically.

Also not sure if we "want more people to vote." The average American is wildly unqualified to decide the future of a nation.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not to diminish from your point, yes absentee ballots are good, just

by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate

You know this isn't happening.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Every church I've ever been to has been carefully non-partisan on candidates. It's not just tax status, they don't want to cause parishioners to feel unwelcome because they need the attendance.

I know some churches are being overly political, sure, but I absolutely believe the majority are doing the right thing.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 3 months ago

And I can list as many that I've been to that don't. Anecdotal evidence holds

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Then you've had good churches. But don't discount something just because you've been lucky.

[-] shani66@ani.social 0 points 3 months ago

They're not. Every church I've ever been to has preached that Democrats are demons.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

As long as they are doing it the right way, by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate

Yeah that's not what's happening. They get a sermon every Sunday about horrible immigrants and the woke agenda. Then at this event they get told to make sure they vote Christian. It's specifically the evangelical churches and mega churches doing this.

[-] tehbilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

And at least one religious college where I live. They were bussing students to polling stations

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yep. They understand it's about getting their people to vote while making sure the other group doesn't

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