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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 month ago
[-] huginn@feddit.it 46 points 1 month ago

Jill disappears on November 6th and reappears 3 years and 10 months later. Like clockwork.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Jill disappears on November 6th and reappears 3 years and 10 months later

Good money in it. Russian rubles too.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do you think she started out earnest and got co-opted?
Has she been a willing accomplice since day one?

To sit at a fancy gala dinner with the very definition of what the hard right salivates to be, then to declare that both parties are the same... that is something... that takes some fucking chutzpah.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

That sounds too much like work and not enough like bitching.

Makes me wish we had some serious third parties in this country, and not two grifting perennial presidential-election also-rans

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 37 points 1 month ago

The lack of viable ones is less a result of effort on their part or desire for them among the electorate, and more to do with the nature of our voting system. Its hard to develop a viable third party when the system one is operating in mathematically guarantees that only two parties can be seriously competitive with eachother in nationally significant elections, and those parties are already established. They can be competitive in local elections that the larger ones dont put as much effort into, but the only times theyve ever gotten to the presidency have been the couple times when one of the two major parties basically collapses and gets replaced with a different one.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

They can be competitive in local elections that the larger ones dont put as much effort into,

That's my point, though. The two biggest third parties in this country aren't competitive in local elections, because they put even less effort in local elections as the two major parties do. They make a performative shot at the presidency every four years, and that's about fucking it. The Libertarians are slightly better (god, what a sentence to gag on) on this than the Greens, but not by much.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago

STAR vote to make parties irrelevant except at the coalition building level!

[-] aliceblossom@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Finally, yes! Anyone who wants to vote for a third party should instead spend their time and effort fighting for a different voting system (ranked choice, star, etc) that could mathematically allow a third party to actually succeed.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

STAR is good for the existence of ideas but not for actually getting third party candidates elected. It stands for Score Then Automatic Run off. The top two candidates advance to the Automatic Run off. That's just the FPTP with a dressing that makes third party voters feel better.

RCP actually empowers third party voters, is easy to understand, and is already being adopted.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 27 points 1 month ago

The Green Party was never to be taken seriously by anyone that knows better. It’s always been a spoiler party. This is evident in the fact that seemingly none of the Green Party candidates do jack shit three years out of every four. And when the election cycle comes. They just projectile-shit left and right depending on who’s paying.

[-] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Not to mention the significant Russian ties for the Green Party and the clear spoiler effect.

First result for green party Russian ties

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[-] Juice@midwest.social 20 points 1 month ago

As a firm believer in the need for a strong labor party to struggle for the rights of working people as an absolute bare minimum to advancing the struggle for human rights, individual freedom and working class power (while it isn't by default a guarantee for any of those things as it would require the participation of growing masses to even begin to take these problems on,) this party doesn't exist in this election. Principles don't count for shit, only power matters. Before engaging in any safe state strategies, better make sure your math is impeccable since the Republicans can lose the popular vote and still win the election. We can build power for the future, but keep Trump out for now.

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[-] Zenjal@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Both agree on the point and the proper meme format

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I'd have a lot more respect if there was a third party candidate running for my district's house seat.

That would mean they're actually trying to build election infrastructure.

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[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I like the sentiment and suggest taking it a step further.

If they aren't starting at the local level then they aren't serious about the national level regardless of when they start discussing the next election.

[-] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

The far-left people actively saying "Don't vote for Dem" making an easier win for Trump are probably the most stupid people of the bunch.

Revolution is not happening anytime soon, meanwhile let's do something with what we have.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bet non of those people vote in local elections.

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[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Or, running down ballot candidates to actually affect genuine policy change. But no, just run for president to make a small amount of noise and rake in that moron money.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

What if I told you that 'building a foundation for the party' wasn't the true intention, but actually to sow discord and chaos in a hope to weaken a perceived "enemy"?

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