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Thread update: Prigozhin's fucking dead.

rip-bozo


The BRICS summit will begin on Tuesday and end on Thursday, with various world leaders, politicians, and representatives meeting in Johannesburg, South Africa.

America's anxiety about the summit has been obvious. They have been complicating the event by pushing for the arrest warrant for Putin to be upheld if he steps foot in the country. While this is a remarkably dangerous and unhinged thing to do - even by America's standards - to the leader of a nuclear superpower who could end the world within an hour, it does betray their desperation. Unfortunately, for those of us who wanted to see Putin surrounded by an army of security guards fending off people holding handcuffs, he has sent his Foreign Minister, Lavrov, in his place. Additionally, America has likely been spreading rumors about the lack of interest in gaining new members in the organization.

With apparently 20 countries formally seeking membership and another 20 informally doing so, the bloc has been elevated, whether they like it or not, to the position of the international vanguard of the non-western world. It is extremely important to say that this is not the same as it becoming an anti-American bloc, and many of them (including original members Brazil and India) wish to keep a friendly relationship with the United States. Nonetheless, with the United States' policy of "if you are not with us, you are against us," and as the US seeks to weaken China, in coming years many of them might find themselves under hostile pressure.

BRICS has to try and solve many problems if they are going to chip away at America's stranglehold of the world economy. These problems - like mitigating the dollar's status as a global reserve currency, and America's dominant role in the world economy - are extremely complicated, and will takes years, even decades, to be overcome. Therefore, one should temper their expectations and excitement for this summit. It took tens of millions of deaths in cataclysmic wars, and then several more decades, for America to reach its current position. I see no reason to believe why its downfall will be any less bloody and elongated.

To end on a less depressing note, I've been searching for appropriate anagrams given the list of countries that seek to join BRICS. Obviously not all of them will make it in, but even so. The best I've come up with is HIBISCUS EMANCIPATES BBBBKKRVV.

(also, "bulletins and news discussion" can be rearranged to "libidinous newsstands uncles".)


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 114 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

coming through for me one last time

edit: Rogov has confirmed it which is enough for me to switch the megathread title

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 101 points 10 months ago

Brazil's Supreme Court rules that homophobia is now punishable by prison.

Hate speech is punishable by prison terms of 2 to 5 years in Brazil.

Another lula w

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[-] GoroAkechi@hexbear.net 89 points 10 months ago

Sorry guys, it’s my first day working the S-300. Please forgive me 🙏🏻🙏🏻

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[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 89 points 10 months ago

lemmitors are just mass downvoting negative articles about Ukraine in their news comms, even if it comes from mainstream sources like Wapo or ft. Someone in the comments just has to accuse the OP of being a tankie or having a pro-Russian agenda and then engagement with the post just craters so it doesn't show up in feeds anymore.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 73 points 10 months ago

/r/worldnews still has articles saying Ukraine is winning, crazy cope over there

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[-] spectre@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

Wear em down, it won't be too long before we break through their first defensive lines (mass downvoting)

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 88 points 10 months ago

I would like to nominate this as the post image https://hexbear.net/post/412042

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 87 points 10 months ago

Just told my 10yo daughter about #Prigozhin. She had tears in her eyes. And then she did the Wakanda pose and said "#Wagkanda forever" -- which is the sort of pop culture cross-over that I can celebrate.

[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 83 points 10 months ago

Russian opinions on various leaders of Russia/USSR throughout history:

Interesting notes for people that can't read Cyrillic:

Peter the Great is clear number 1, Catherine the Great is 2nd.

Stalin comes in at 3rd place, with 65% having a positive view and only 20% having a negative view

Brezhnev is in 4th place, and Lenin is sadly in 6th place :(

Dead last is Yeltsin of course, and 2nd last is Gorbachev of course, with nearly 2/3 of the population openly hating them, once again confirming how much of a tragedy the dissolution of the USSR was

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 77 points 10 months ago

Nicholas II right above Lenin

Truly an era of the blackest reaction.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Brezhnev is in 4th place

he got 10 points for his fantastic eyebrows

here's the machine-translated poll. very crusty but the names are recognizable

Lenin and Nicholas II getting the same positive approval is very funny. It really shows how the popular conception of Russian history is, disappointingly but unsurprisingly, basically a "Who was the coolest Russian?" contest rather than any concern about ideology.

Nationalism and its consequences and so on and so forth

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 82 points 10 months ago

"According to Zelenskyy, it is difficult to criticize the Ukrainian counter offensive when the country's forces do not have the appropriate weapons."

I see you are criticizing the drastically low output of my steel mill, yet your criticism is unfounded as we do not have any furnaces.

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 82 points 10 months ago

I have received word that in his final moments Prigozhin received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahada. Even now he looks down on the Ummah from the gardens of Jannah. Truly there is no god but God and Mohammed is his prophet!

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[-] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

trump-who-must-go He just died? Wow. I didn’t know that. You are telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say. Whether you agreed or not, He was an amazing man who led an amazing life. I am actually sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that.

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[-] milistanaccount09@hexbear.net 80 points 10 months ago

"I did everything right, and they exploded me!" prigo-pog

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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 79 points 10 months ago

TrueAnon 10 rules for doing a coup:

Never go to a second location

Always get the interior ministry post

Never get in a helicopter/private plane

If someone with a gun enters your car, they’re gonna kill you

If someone tells your they’re not going to kill you, they’re calming you down to kill you later

Never give up your nukes

Never release opposition political prisoners

Never let the opposition delay elections

If someone starts to get into German runes drop them

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[-] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 76 points 10 months ago

Due to complications of capitlaism I am losing a child. I get this is an emotion people in the global south have had to get accustomed to. Just god damn though. How do we all just keep going?

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[-] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 75 points 10 months ago

Man, i can't believe Prigozhin fell for the oldest trick in the book.

Even I know if you've pissed off a guy who has the power to kill you in broad daylight, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ENTER A FLYING OR FLOATING VEHICLE.

brace-watching

Brace has once again been proven right.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 75 points 10 months ago
[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 75 points 10 months ago

apology for poor english

when were you when prigo dies?

i was sat at home eating borscht when pjotr ring

‘prigo is kill’

‘no’

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 73 points 10 months ago

This never would have happened on a train

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago
[-] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What is with Western presses and their inexact translation? Is it so hard to try to convey the context more accurately?

[Sometimes] he made mistakes

Putin’s exact words were: Ошибки у него были серьезные в жизни.

Which translates to: “He's made serious mistakes in his life.“

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[-] elgonzalors@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago

72T: Come on Pringles, do something funny!

  • Prigozhin fucking dies *

side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago

saw some thread about how ukraine is making huge grounds and liberated a place called Urozhaine. i never heard of it so i tried to find it on a map, but couldnt. so i typed it in google and apparently its a town that consists of two very narrow and short roads and is about 700 feet wide. so like 3-4 football fields

everyone is saying the war is over over 3-4 football fields of land yea propaganda is wild

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 71 points 10 months ago

My friend went to an Anarchist Bookstore and asked about books on Lenin. She has a way to go

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 70 points 10 months ago
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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 69 points 10 months ago

Experts say staff theft common problem in UK museums

Well, yeah, no shit.

Oh, you mean from the museum.

An anonymous employee at a famous London museum called the business "institutionally corrupt," adding that the snatching of some items is considered "Fair game." According to the worker, "cherished items donated to the museum are sometimes secretly sold off or given to auction houses. Not everyone who works in museums is on board, by far, but it's an unspoken problem in the industry, according to the worker, citing he was "shocked at what goes on."

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 68 points 10 months ago

When the war started several people in my town put up Ukraine flags. A while later the supermarket chain I shop at put up signs about donating to Ukrainian refugees and they started selling a limited line of Ukrainian goods, presumably so you could support the Ukrainian economy by buying frozen berries. I bought a can of Ukrainians beer, it was nice.

Most of the flags are gone now. The Ukraine stuff has also silently disappeared from my supermarket. Sure, the politicians are war crazed as always, sending war planes and doing photo ops with Zelensky, but the general public seems to have lost interest in the war. It has become background noise.

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 67 points 10 months ago

folks, you should NEVER get in a small plane

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[-] sunshine@hexbear.net 67 points 10 months ago

anyone else devastated about Lolita/ Tokitae the captive orca whale dying recently? She spent 53 years in a tiny pool in Miami after being stolen from her mother in the PNW at age 4. People were actually trying to persuade her owner to let her come home, even for just one day, because guess what? Her family pod is still seen regularly by researchers, including her own mother... but no. it didn't happen. apparently the park she lived in didn't do anything to protect her from the recent heat domes in Florida either.

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago

The nice thing about permanent work from home is when the internet goes out you get the day off

arm-L comfy arm-R

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago

Donald Trump’s mugshot will be released tomorrow by the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office.

trump-drenched This is about to be one of the funniest weeks this year

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[-] jabrd@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

I don’t think the collective west is ready for the hatred they’re going to be receiving from Ukraine for all of their “support” by the end of this war. We’re so clearly forcing them into certain death under the threat of the end of arms shipments and therefore total defeat by the Russians meanwhile proudly proclaiming in our own press how good a deal it is to have their people die en masse as a showcase for our MIC. We’re the British removed with the whistles ordering them over the trench and into no man’s land so some asshole in raytheon acres can afford a second mistress

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

You're laughing. A great man who opposed Putin died and you're laughing.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago
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[-] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anyone that thinks we're all pro-Putin is going to be very confused by the comments in this mega. Don't worry, libs of the Lemmyverse, we're just pretending for to try and trick you! Boo!

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 64 points 10 months ago

I wonder how long it'll take for it to sink in that Prigo's death is devastating news for the activity level of the news mega. Short term good, long term very bad.

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[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 64 points 10 months ago

Estonian PM Kaja Kallas urged to clarify husband’s Russian business ties

Opposition politicians seek resignation of Baltic leader, who had called on EU companies to refrain from trade with Moscow

michael-laugh

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This item is of little consequence but it speaks to the sorry state of the western left:

The Red-Greens, the farthest left you can get in Danish parliamentary politics, has picked a new political leader as the previous leader is resigning due to term limits and maternity leave. The new leader is Pelle Dragsted and you can say lots of positive things about him, he's well-spoken and clearly intelligent. In his youth he was a communist, he beat up Nazis, got arrested several times and was imprisoned for "vandalizing" a refugee detention center.

But then he grew older and softer and transformed into a "real politician". He is seen as one of the chief architects behind the Red-Greens' rightwards turn towards "being responsible" and "making compromises". This includes turning the traditionally anti-militarist party from opponents of NATO and onto a "there's no alternative to NATO and we're too spineless to hold an unpopular opinion"-line. He is also so cucked that he's publicly regretting his antifascist past

I was angry at capitalism, the police and the Nazis. I also took part in things I today think were stupid. It was an environment on which violence was accepted because you thought it was a kind of self defense against for instance the neo-nazis.

But as I was saying: I see things different today. I still want to change the world and make Denmark a fairer place but only with peaceful and democratic means.

In the press conference today he made the following statement that perfectly encapsulates how opportunism and ideological decay had turned the western left into a bunch of impotent reactionary succdems:

I love Denmark. I love the society and the form of society we have developed for the last century.

The good Vladimir Ilyich would have had him shot.

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[-] puff@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago

I thought it was kind of funny that they offed him but I just realized it would be EVEN FUNNIER if he wasn't on the plane because he had to take a shit and we get an absolutely unhinged video of him screaming like never before that SHOIGU and GERASIMOV tried to kill him but failed.

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So I guess it's safe to call Wagner a failure from a realpolitik perspective? The goal of Wagner, and why it was created/allowed to exist by Russia, was to deploy/project Russian military power outside of Russia's borders without having to officially deploy the Russian military.

However, a lot of Wagner's foreign operations have failed, (Mozambique, Mali currently, being blown up by the US in Syria) and it's reliance on fascist elements as a Private Military Contactor (Utkin, the name, the skull symbol) led to an ideological situation which they believed they could, and actually attempted to, coup the Russian government. So now that all the people in charge of Wagner have been assassinated and the creation had to be killed by its creator as it got to powerful, I think a sober analysis would conclude Wagner has failed in its mission. I find it hard to believe the successes in Bakhmut and the CAR are worth all this.

I think any leftist could have easily seen that creating a PMC with links to fash ideology to exert foreign influence was always going to fail/backfire, but alas, Russia is led by neoliberal fools so they did it anyways.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

Ortega reportedly allowing Russian military to establish bases, cruise missile batteries in Nicaragua

All based on an unconfirmed report, so I don't fucking know. Would be very funny though. Can't wait to see how NATO putting bases and troops in the Baltics is fine but this is actually evil autocratic authoritarianism, if it is true.

Daniel Ortega, the president of Nicaragua, has signed a decree giving Russia permission to station troops and establish military bases in his country, according to a report from Kh-101 missiles had a range of around 5,000 km, which is long enough to allow them to reach most of the US and the southernmost parts of Canada (or into Brazil, Bolivia and northern Chile, for that matter). As of press time, the Sprinter report could not be confirmed.

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