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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If Russia is permitted to annex any part of Ukraine it sends the message that they can attack any country and eventually take over parts of it.

If the world doesn’t stop Russia from taking Ukraine, Russia isn’t going to stop once they’ve taken Ukraine.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Exactly! I don't know why appeasement is even discussed with any seriousness. We've all seen this before.

Previously on: "World History"

England: "Fine, fine, you can have, like, ~~Poland~~ a slice of Czechoslovakia, but then chill out!"

Narrator: "He did not 'chill out'."

(Edited for accuracy. Thanks!)

[-] djsp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

The United Kingdom, along with France, ceded Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland to Hitler's Germany, not Poland; in fact, it was the Nazi regime's invasion of Poland the following year that prompted France and the United Kingdom to declare war.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Excellent points and I really appreciate your correction. Accuracy is still important even for rhetorical jokes like mine haha.

Edited. Thank you! :)

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 19 hours ago

I don't get why Russia isn't picked apart by its neighbors. They behave like a bully, just gang up on him already.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 38 points 1 day ago

Can’t understand why you’re being downvoted. This is quite literally the collective assessment of NATO.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

It’s also essentially why NATO exists. I understand the “not involved in conflict” clause for applying but this seems like a special occasion where the conflict is coming from the whole reason the damn organization was created in the first place

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Trudeau is spot on and Canada should ask the Blue States if they would like to be annexed.

[-] yildolw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The population of Canada has only recently surpassed the population of California. Annexing the blue states would be a big meal for Canada to digest

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Yeah sure, it will go like this:
2025 - blue states join Canada
2026 - red states aka the remainder of the USA face growing unrest as their funding handouts are cut off
2026 - tech companies in the province of Canifornia stop sharing new tech breakthroughs with USA due to posturings by their increasingly expanding military industrial complex and proposed weapon developments
2027 - huge skills drain in USA as health professionals and remaining scientists flee to Canada
2028 - Gilead starts amassing troops and staging 'special military exercises' on their border with Canada

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

+1...However, by 2028, the MAGATs will resort to violence on each other to settle their internal disputes.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

nice Gilead reference. under his eye

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

20 billion

Man, I'm jealous.

His country has universal health care and isn't wasting trillions a year policing the world like we are.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

I'll let you in on something else. We spend as much taxes per capita on healthcare as America does.

[-] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

Our healthcare system has been deteriorating over the last 5-8 years now though with many healthcare professionals leaving the force for higher paying US opportunities. It's lead to an annoying experience out here for anyone younger than 40 seeking healthcare.

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

As an American, I'm confused that Canada has less than 2% GDP for military spending. Do you guys just spend all that money back on yourselves? Fucking nice.

[-] Steak@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah honestly as a Canadian with 2 kids and another on the way. It's pretty awesome. We get in the neighborhood of $1500 a month for our two kids already and once the next one is born we will be getting north of $2200 a month from our government. It covers a lot of bills and makes the life we have possible. We live small but we make our money go a looong way and prioritize time with our kids over extra cash flow. My wife works part time and right now I'm able to be a full time stay at home dad until my wife takes another maternity leave then I'll go back to work part or fulltime.

Edit: Also our healthcare is fully covered. It's such a relief. My wife had one potential issue with her last pregnancy and our healthcare system went above and beyond to make sure everything was fine. They immediately sent her to a more capable facility by helicopter and had specialists waiting and everything. And it was all free. They take children's health very seriously and spend any money necessary.

Some people hate our healthcare system and I get it, it has its flaws. But when shit hits the fan and you are in need. They rush to your safety it's actually crazy. My wife and child ended up being absolutely fine but they didn't even take the chance.

One time my youngest had a really bad virus and was at home. He took a turn for the worse and started having low level breathing and his skin changed colour. We rushed to the hospital since it's literally 2 mins from our house. The second someone at the front entrance saw his little face it was like go time. They cleared the hallways immediately and like 5 doctors and nurses took him from us and rushed him into the Emerg. They spend a lot of time training for moments like that and when someone is really in need of help they are there and they work like a well oiled machine to save lives.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm assuming it's because they really only have a single neighboring country, the US. Despite the Fallout games, I doubt that the US invasion/annexation of Canada is even seen as a remote possibility, or something that they could really ever meaningfully oppose were the US to even try it. There's just no need to maintain a ridiculously large military when you're neighbors with the country that has the largest military spending on Earth anyways, may as well just spend your money on your people.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

We're annexing them through conservative news sources instead. It's slower, but quite effective.

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[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago

Raise the military spend now. Stop kicking the can. We've helped, sure, but we need to do more.

Tax the rich to fund it lol.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago

Agree 100% we can't rely on our rich bi-polar brother in the methlab of a house next door to protect us anymore.

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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 64 points 2 days ago

2/3rds of Ukrainians want the same. They just need the help to resist the Russian invasion.

Poll data was part of Perun's latest video on the latest developments of the war and what the turning point will be:

https://youtu.be/vf2vSoWsmgI (0:50:38)

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