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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

in today's news: lying scumbag has surprisingly lied

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I've started reading it. ~880 pages. The first section delineates the boring things with sneaking incredibly non-republic based idea into every third sentence or so. Things that push the value of the executive while diminishing the value of anything else in the republic.

I'm on the second article. It is going to be the biggest grind of my life. I'm going to read it through once. And the second time I'm going to take notes.

So far its largest tool is how it uses

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.... type arguments to hide monarchical and absolutist ideals smothering the republic. These types of arguments are common in online forums.

It is insidious. And it should be read but is going to be like the Xian bible ... never read but frequently quoted. They will just leave out the bad bits from their quotes until later when they will say, "It is all laid out in the document."

[-] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

i'm grateful for your service!

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 113 points 1 day ago

To the shock of absolutely no one who has been paying attention.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 68 points 1 day ago

And yet the New York Times refuses to use the words lie or liar.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Everyone knew he was lying. His voters just didn’t care.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His voters wouldn't even bother to read about project 2025 on the project 2025 website.

If they did, I'm sure they would have some objections. But then the Trump Translator part of their brain is engaged. "Surely he didn't mean it like that, what he really means is [something to decrease cognitive dissonance]"

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most of them are so dumb they think prices at the grocery store are literally set by the president, like Biden was sitting down signing off on the price of eggs going up rather than ever understanding a semblance of the corporatocracy we live in. And if prices change at the pump, or grocery store, etc, they’ll thank god emperor Trump for signing new prices into place, continuing the cycle of idiocracy.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

When people complain about gas prices in a political discussion I have found that taking it to the absurd can shut them up. I'll say something like "Well everybody knows Biden has that big gas price lever on his desk in the oval office. He just keeps cranking on it, why won't he stop?"

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 day ago

Trump also disavowed:

Being racist
Wanting to overturn roe v wade Losing the election
Being weird
Knowing half the people that worked for him
Etc.

See a pattern?

If you still don't or never did, you're a fucking idiot.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

No shit, you don't develop a 900 page plan, hire some of the very people who wrote it, author an introduction for a book by one of the authors, and then go "Naaah..."

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Only stupid people can be remotely surprised by any of this.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wish that was true, but unfortunately gaslighting and other forms of propaganda is much more effective than most people think.

You don't have to be an idiot to be fooled by effective messaging and messaging doesn't have to make sense to be effective.

Sure, but my dad's still an idiot. 😅

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Not disputing that. Absolute dunce, that one 😁

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Don't know if you had seen elsewhere, but I cut him out of my life after hearing both that no black person can raise a child, and all Puerto Ricans are lazy and milk the syste. .. he has 2 sons me, no kids, and my brother, who married a Puerto Rican Lawyer and had 2 kids. His parents one born in Sicily, the other born in Brooklyn and went back to Sicily at 2 years old before he came back later. Aka natural born citizenship is what his citizenship is based off of. He has every right to be deported as the people bitch about on fox. He doesn't realize why his father was involved politics in NY as a kid nor why his dad was a "security" member for the Mafia on his off time. Italians weren't white back then. He was born in 61'. Got all the kick and hard work of his priors

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

insert fry shocked gif

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

• EXERCISE IS GOOD
• MEDICINE CAN HELP
• SMOKING IS BAD
• EAT RIGHT FOR BETTER HEALTH
• CANCER CAN CAUSE DEATH

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I read the penultimate one as "EAT RIGHT FOR BETTER DEATH" at first 😄

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

And you losers aided him in lying the entire campaign. You and your loser cable news station buddies.

[-] shadow 4 points 22 hours ago

Fucking duh

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

No shit? You don't say.... For real?

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Next they'll be denying that Peter Thiel has sponsored JD Vance's entire political career (which is only two years old), and that it's a ploy to institute a Techo-Monarchy that their favourite bloggee Curtis Yarvin writes about, and that several other billionaires are in on it (such as Marc Andresseen)... And that it involves having less of a democracy than currently.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

I'm at this weird place where I sort of want Trump to do horrible things? It seems like it's the only way the public might snap out of it. I mean I would have thought his first term worked have been enough but here we are.

Ideally we could all count on the Dems to learn from this and be better next time... I just don't see that happening right now.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 12 hours ago

So you're an accelerationist

I feel it too. I think it's also partially just depression. A mental health support mechanism, expecting the worst in order to not be disappointed.

Our brains also have whiplashed, disconnecting emotionally after we committed so hard to hoping for a result that would have averted disaster, but feeling absolutely powerless in the face of mob insanity.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Jesus Christ....I feel your energy

[-] bahbah23@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Snap out of what? This is why they voted for him.

[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Maybe they voted for him to do the one thing that they believe will benefit them, but not the other thing

[-] bahbah23@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yep, my step mom voted for him. She's a teacher and still refuses to believe that he said he's going to shut down the department of education.

[-] linuxfiend@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

I'm there with you.

I just hope a redhat wearing nutjob decides now is the time for violence so I can kill one. I worked with a bunch and they are evil.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

He lied???????????

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You mean he lied? Well I never.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[-] classic@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Words could never convey the absolute unexpectedness of this. Why, even with a so venerable, uncompromised, unflinchingly truth bound institution as the NYT calling attention to this (and in such a timely manner for citizens to digest and make use of the information) I can scarce believe that this development is indeed occurring

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Someone tell the other people

[-] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

NYT paying their editors and authors obscene money to understand politics and this is what they come up with. And it is all intentional.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No no, you've got it backwards: NYT is paying competent people obscene amounts of money to be as willfully obtuse as humanly possible without too many readers catching on.

See their coverage of anything to do with cops, Israel, conservative Democrats (including but not limited to the entirety of the DNC leadership), and "moderate Republicans" (actually paleoconservatives made to look less extreme by literal fascists and anarcho-capitalists taking over).

They're not the "paper of record" because of the quality of their reporting as much as their popularity amongst the rich and powerful who decide what goes on the record.

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