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Afaik this happened with every single instance of a communist country. Communism seems like a pretty good idea on the surface, but then why does it always become autocratic?

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[-] Pili@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

If I am wrong, the people on hexbear have also misunderstood it. They believe that the only way to the utopia they want is through China’s authoritarian methods. Their support for China is about as pervasive there as lemmy.world’s support for DLC style neoliberal globalism.

hexbear mentioned!! lets-fucking-go

[-] Red_Renewal_Cosmonaut@hexbear.net 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

lemmy world is a hive of losers who know absolutely nothing convincing each other that the status quo is good and moral

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

maybe trite to point out, but it betrays such a total lack of understanding of dialectical and historical materialism and of communism itself when people talk about it in the past tense like this. and like it's a binary state a country can choose to enter by pressing the communism button or whatever. juvenile state of political education.

[-] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 17 hours ago

In a real democracy, the less wealthy majority would use their majority power in their own benefit, and exert despotic control and repression over the wealthy minority, so to speak. If this doesn't happen, then you don't live in a democracy.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

all states are class dictatorships, the function of a state is to assert class rule

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 54 points 20 hours ago

The west calls a country autocratic when they won't let rich assholes do whatever they want.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 36 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah I'm an autocrat, I don't know how to drive manual transmission so no one else should either

(Plot twist: I actually do know how to drive a manual, but I have an authoritarian skull shape so I just love oppressing people)

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 19 hours ago

If you're an autocrat does that make some of us deceptions? (Autobots & decepticons but american politicians bit joke)

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Sure, why not. Let's just roll with it (see what I did there teehee)

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 18 hours ago

It's because you personally wouldn't give me your toothbrush

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 16 points 17 hours ago

For the same reason your sibling would never hand you the controller without moms intervention

[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 58 points 21 hours ago

I feel like slop posts shouldn't just copy the original post and need to have a title that makes it clear it's slop.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 40 points 21 hours ago

Yeah lol, we should have a way to astral project these serious responses here into the LW comment section too.

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 58 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Why did capitalism always turn into a kind of dictatorship?

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 28 points 19 hours ago

Why doesn't anyone other than the Capitalists themselves ever have any real freedom under Capitalism?

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 20 points 18 hours ago

Dick Tater Ship

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 36 points 21 hours ago

Pretty decent comment here

I disagree with calling Chile a communist country (Allende had barely achieved anything by the time he was killed, thanks to huge opposition from reactionaries) but otherwise that's a good and lib-friendly way to shut down an anticommunist bit.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 24 points 17 hours ago

I like how the lib below them says “Yeah those incidents were bad but the US is still less authoritarian than China because people are calling for a socialist revolution on this site and aren’t jailed.”

Clearly they have never seen a local PD infiltrate and jail a tiny anarchist group.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

True freedom is when you can log on to the internet and post "The government is poopypants"

[-] Red_Renewal_Cosmonaut@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago

I don't know, the bad grammar makes it almost incomprehensible.

[-] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 17 points 19 hours ago

Why do my farts always turn into poops?

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago

Your butthole is woke?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 32 points 21 hours ago

First I would tell you to educate yourself on democratic centralism, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, the politbureau and other Marxist Leninist concepts before we can have a productive discussion. Also read Blackshirts and Reds by Parenti and familiarize yourself with seige socialism. Others will be able to provide you better answers and sources I am sure.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 21 hours ago

Have these gentlemen ever seen deez nuts?

Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837

"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 22 points 21 hours ago

"power corrupts" - Steve Job

[-] Red_Renewal_Cosmonaut@hexbear.net 6 points 13 hours ago

its a cop out by morons with no understanding of why things happen so they just repeat this mantra to return stability to their ignorant and unquestioning selves.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 25 points 18 hours ago

Marx knows how much I loathe this actual quote. It's a massive self-report in one respect and on another, more Nietzschean, level doesn't anyone ever stop to consider why the ruling class would tell the masses:

"Oh no, power is terrible!! If you touch power or, worse yet, accumulate and maintain control of power then it's going to be disastrous for you both in a practical sense and especially on a moral level.

It's best if you eschew all power at every opportunity. Don't use it. Learn to loathe it. It will corrupt you and all that you care for. Leave it. Refuse it. Just say no.

(Just let us take care of controlling power)."

There couldn't be a more convenient quote for protecting the interests of the status quo. Honestly, is there anything more dripping with ressentiment than the cultural beliefs and the message embedded in that quote?

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago
[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's semi-ironic.

I'm a non-believer and reactionaries like to level the accusation that we worship figures like Marx and Lenin so figure I'll just turn that into an in-joke instead of trying to convince some chud that, no, I do not have a shrine to revolutionary figures in my house which I supplicate to and, no, I do not treat Capital like it's a holy text.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 17 hours ago

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[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 17 points 21 hours ago

Ah, so that's why they switched to x86

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago

what's ligma?

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