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I'm so sick and tired of libs demanding that students juggle scholarship applications, working, studying, and fucking starving in order to get through college.

Y'know what? I don't think students should have to fucking work during school and it is fcked up that we've normalized grinding people into dust in order to achieve an education.

Oh, and fuck you if you have a learning disability and can't do both school and work. Guess it's poverty for you, buddy.

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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Hell, one of my buddies worked full time at Home Depot selling appliances and nearly paid for full time college cash every semester. (May have had a sports scholarship)

Enhance!

nearly paid for full time college cash every semester. (May have had a sports scholarship)

Enhance!

(May have had a sports scholarship)

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Also doubt because there is not enough time in a day for a full practice and workout in the early morning, three to five hours of class, eight hours of wage labor, and still enough time to study, complete assignments, feed yourself and wash your ass and still wake up in time to do it the next day.

So either they're lying, or this person went to college part time and graduated in 6+ years, or they worked full time for three months out of the year and part time the rest, or they just didn't learn anything and picked a major that allowed them to graduate without doing virtually any work. What a rosy outlook for the public education system!!

Edit: or they ordered doordash/Uber eats every day on Dad's credit card, in which case thanks for subsidizing my education as well

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They even say that he had a "useless degree" which means that he would have been better off just not going to college in the first place.

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[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

geordi-no College students should be malnourished and work 14 hours a day

geordi-yes College students should be paid for going to college since it's job training

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

no more half measures walter

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[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, if we are expected to jump through all these hoops boomers never had to, especially white boomers. They're the weak men that have created the hard times?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

No they drive a very manly truck with their wrap-around oakleys and that makes them very hard men.

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[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A 'little effort' here is working a full time job while also taking 12-15 units?

[–] thisonethatone@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Yes, and applying for scholarships and grants.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

working full time while going to school full time is a high effort way to squeeze out on a lot of enriching opportunities that only exist through school: student organization/activism, extracurricular research, scholarship competitions, conferencing, independent study/overseas studies, etc. it's one thing to work while in school to keep a roof over your head and food in your belly, but it's something else to do it to avoid loans. i know loans are predatory and shitty, but they can't repossess your knowledge, experience, social capital, and connections.

guarantee the guy who "worked full time at home depot" and "may have had a sports scholarship" to graduate debt free with a "useless degree" absolutely compounded the uselessness of his education by focusing only on the credential. i mean, jesus, at least get a campus gig.

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Don't want college students having free time to organize against things like war, gotta crush em.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those social opportunities are better at getting set later in life than the degree.

Networking is more powerful than a resume. Yeah it’s basically a form of nepotism. Being in a frat in college is likely to give a better outcome than working full time to graduate without debt.

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[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah like, these days your degree is only "worth" something on the job market if you've got the internship/job/research experience to complement it. Ignoring that necessity so you can work more hours and act all smug when you graduate debt-free is akin to tying your shoelaces together at the start of a ten mile hike. Good way to ensure that your "useless degree" is indeed economically useless to yourself.

Edit: by lib logic anyway, hope that's clear

[–] Mehrunes_Laser@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This just in: A man who survived swimming across a dangerous river is now mad that they want to build a bridge.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"I survived cancer, so by god I am going to lobby against any cure for it because fuck you"

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[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

A man who survived by crawling over the bodies of those who didn't make it.

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[–] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And then in the next breath they'll complain about how when they were kids they were so wild, they partied and had fun, not like todays kids. And then, breath after that, they explain how any rule breaking should be the death penalty for children.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah. I think one of the most depressing parts of my education was a professor (who went to the same university) telling me how different the student experience was 40 years ago. He told stories about storming each other's dorms, off-milk water balloon fights, breaking into the canteen kitchens to cook after nights out, operating all sorts of delicate science equiptment extremely drunk, etc etc etc. The sort of college shenanigans you see in films and assume are made up. Then he asked what the equivalent is for my friends. I had to explain that we studied ourselves into ill health and went into crunch for weeks for the sake of getting top grades, then tried to sleep or distract ourselves with videogames. Maybe go to a bar occasionally. It really illustrated that massive parts of my life aren't normal and shouldn't be normal.

Apparently this anxiety and constant demands of perfection are new. Its a generational thing. Its not normal to have never failed anything and be fucking paralyzingly terrified of ever doing so. He was so upset at how lame and depressing modern kids are, that the spirit of the university is apparently gone, but at least he had the decency to be upset at the culture rather than us. I wonder what it felt like before, if kids were freer?

[–] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

storming each other's dorms, off-milk water balloon fights, breaking into the canteen kitchens to cook after nights out, operating all sorts of delicate science equiptment extremely drunk, etc etc etc

You get expelled for that stuff now! They actually punish you for it so you cant do any of that stuff anymore even if you had the free time!

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[–] Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got "back in my day'd" by my lead at work who makes at minimum 2 grand more than me, but with the pay scale, he should be making significantly more, and we're both part of a union that's been fighting for a better pay scale for new employees for a while because it's no longer sustainable.

We're supposed to be on the same team, wtf, you're licking the wrong boots.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder what they spray on the boot leather cause it must taste good

[–] Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a person who enjoys literally licking leather boots, I was taught to just use a small lather of gentle leather conditioner and a bit of water. You can polish them too, and that you'll wanna be careful with polish, find something that is edible and non-toxic. Boot blacking and leather care is a whole thing, and it's super hot if you're into that.

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

maybe-later-kiddo : I understand you're struggling, but you could always [anecdote that is a lie]

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So you're homeless and starving huh? Why didn't you of just think of putting in a little effort? very-intelligent

Every person with this attitude was born with a silver spoon in their mouth or otherwise given all their wealth by knowing rich people. 99% of people who work devastatingly hard end up even poorer, me and many of my family members have chronic mental and/or physical conditions as a result of working too hard, and now we're still piss fucking poor as well as in pain and traumatised.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not only does he have a useless degree, hes also bad at it because he didnt spend enough time studying it (bcos work el oh el) and made zero connections!! Worth it! Look at that slave ethic

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[–] SweaterWeather@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

If you don’t want to be in student debt maybe you should consider working 30 hours a day. Dumb kids.

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Oh, and fuck you if you have a learning disability and can't do both school and work. Guess it's poverty for you, buddy.

Yeah I was gonna say it's ableist af. Got ADHD and really struggle to keep up with and coordinate all those things? Dyslexia, so you need at least twice the amount of time to do the reading and writing? Autism, so the college environment is often overstimulating and lacking in accommodations? Well I guess the plan is for those people to go fuck themselves, but at least be honest that that is the plan.

[–] thisonethatone@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah have OCD and I can't work more than 10 hours a week on top of studies. I tried and I had a massive meltdown. I ended up having to take out loans because not doing so wasn't an option for me.

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[–] Finger@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

no more half measures walter

[–] pastalicious@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

I paid off my loans working three shitty part time jobs and it didn’t make me mad at the thought of loan forgiveness it just made me hate capitalism.

Why should I want anyone else to have their time and energy sapped away pointlessly???

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

entrepreneurship is when you die on the altar

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This guys thinks poverty is a choice. What a cunt.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

America in particular has ingrained into its people this insidious notion that poverty is voluntary. Those people who need food stamps? Bums, all of them, they just don't care enough to get better paying jobs.

Circumstances such as the socioeconomic status you were raised in, physical/mental health, your ethnicity are completely irrelevant (hell, sometimes ethnicity is used as a means of insisting that is why someone is 'lazy', rather then reflecting on how a person's race impacts the entire manner in which society interacts with them)

[–] thisonethatone@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago
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