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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 365 points 3 days ago

It's fucking ridiculous he has to say it out loud

Tbh a lot of people in the states are under the impression that we CAN do precisely that, because we absolutely have done in the past. But this is also kind of a whole different ballgame, in a ton of pretty crucial ways.

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I am so sad by how Ukraine has been handled.

The West should have been an overwhelming power against Russian imperialism. Ukraine should have been given everything from the beginning, no strings attached, with no self-imposed red lines.

They will swallow another democracy in 10-20 years and the cycle repeats.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Yep. It was a sad excuse not to intervene in 2014, but now? Pathetic.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago

And that would likely have ended the war sooner, causing less people to die, and making Putin less likely to try something like it in the future.

[-] 13esq@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Tactically, the plan is to make Russia bleed to death rather than temporarily paralyse it.

Maximizing the loss of russian life and draining the russian economy to the point that the population won't tolerate any further war is the goal. It's unfortunate that this is at the cost of ongoing war in Ukraine.

[-] GuitarSon2024@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

This is a solid take, but the other side of the issue is the question of how long will it take the brainwashed Russian population to realize the economy has passed a point of no return? Outside of major cities much of Russia lives in 3rd world poverty. Will they even notice if the ruble falls to zero?

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[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The comments are peak internet dumpster fire 🍿

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 99 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is arguably the whole point of the war.

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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Unfortunately, Trump will do exactly that regardless.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 56 points 3 days ago

Probably already has.

Given the Russian pushes since Trump won the election, I'm guessing the deal is "stop fighting (for a bit), but any land you're currently on is yours to keep".

This obviously will not apply to the bits of Russia currently under Ukrainian control.

Europe needs to up it's munitions manufacture. Can't rely on the US for that shit any more. They've gone mad.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe we can broker a deal where Russia gets to keep the invaded land, but Ukraine becomes a full NATO member.

That should fuck up putins imperialist plans to revive the ussr.

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