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[-] user224 109 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As an Arch user, whatever suits you.

I installed Arch on my ThinkPad because.............................................................................................. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.................... I had an Arch sticker and I felt like I couldn't use it if I didn't use Arch.

Everyone has some reasons for their favorite distro.

[-] Tyoda@lemm.ee 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I use Arch, and I have an OpenSUSE wallpaper.

Before this, I used Mint and had an Arch wallpaper...

I live to offend.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 12 points 2 weeks ago

Opensuse unironically has some of the best OS branding and wallpapers. I like that little chameleon.

I use bazzite now but I liked all of the visuals of opensuse Kalpa better!

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[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm too lazy to maintain an Arch install, so it's Mint for me. Long live Mint unironically.

Mint is one of the best versions of Ubuntu you could possibly use. They give you Ubuntu without all the forced snaps and other crap.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

At that point just use Debian?

Fair enough, but Mint gives you the more up to date base of Ubuntu and some QoL tools that Debian doesn't have. If you prefer Debian, then use it. I just feel Mint is better for beginners or people who want an easier time with less tinkering.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Running yay every other day is all the maintenance I do on my arch installation.

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[-] llamatron@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Konstant@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago
[-] comador@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.

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[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I love it. This made me laugh.

But, as this month's chair of the of the Linux User Group for Letting Everyone Know We Hate Snaps (LUG LEKWHS), I want to clarify that we don't have a problem with Ubuntu users.

It's Canonical we have a beef with.

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[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Meh, I mean, Arch includes non-free software as well, so as a Trisquel user, you are all dead to me.

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[-] everett@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago

s/HERE/HEAR/g

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago

As an Arch user, both Debian and Pop_OS are better choices than Ubuntu

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No FLOSS loving Linux user is dead to me, not even the GNOME project team, and frankly I suspect it's noobies and non-users pushing these memes lately.

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

I agree. I don't think I've ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I've seen some "oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead" or maybe even "you should try blank" (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don't.

I've tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don't want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don't have infinitely more problems than they do... Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many "hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know" pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.

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[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I just went full linux on my daily driver about a year ago after running a headless linux media server for a few years.

Can someone explain to me why Ubuntu is so terrible? Is it not difficult enough to use or something?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m going to preface this with saying whatever works for you.

It’s not really about difficulty for most people.

Canonical (the people who manage Ubuntu,) has made some unfortunate decisions.

First, and I feel this has always been true, they approach their users with the assumption that they are in fact idiots. Microsoft has the same design philosophy, and it makes things much harder than it needs to be. (Some people may be idiots, but if they want to wipe the entire drive, that’s their business, right?)

Secondly, Ubuntu tends snoop on you, and certain decisions by canonical raises alarms.

Finally, fuck snap.

Edit: if all you’ve used is Ubuntu, get yourself a moderately large usb stick and try a few others out. No need to remove Ubuntu to try a new flavor. Linux is like ice cream. Find your favorite and stab anyone who disagrees with you. I mean, Stan it. Yeah that’s it.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

snaps.

oh, and that time that Canonical put Amazon telemetry in the default search application.

oh, and how they just bundle up "bleeding edge" stuff from a year ago and ship it with it's associated bugs.

It's been a few years since I tried but it just really turned me off.

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[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people who dislike Ubuntu, but here's a few:

  • They injected internet ads into search
  • To many outside of the community if they have any familiarity with Linux on a desktop, it's with Ubuntu which kinda places it in a position to newcomers as being Linux itself rather than one particular flavor
  • It is very opinionated about look and feel and usability: i.e. their custom launcher and Snaps
  • It's popular
  • It has a reasonably large user base so there's more opportunity for people to find things to nitpick over.

Overall it's fine. I've used Ubuntu, Mint, Puppy, DSL, Arch (btw), Fedora, and Debian. I can do pretty much anything I need to on any of them. I've got my preferences about the correct balance between useability, upgrade schedule, and customizability.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

They injected internet ads into search

They did? Like filesystem search? I don't see that.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

As ferret mentioned it was in the past, but they were prominent:

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Use whatever you like.

But don't complain "Linux requires constant work" after it breaks in a couple of years, instead, be free to complain "Ubuntu requires constant work".

Also, beware that it may be spying on you.

[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

To expand on the hate of snaps:

They're a packaging solution for apps and dependencies. They're apparently quite comfortable for app developers to use too. There was a hiccup where some apps really struggled to run well as snaps, but AFAIK that was fixed.

The common issues are snapcraft being the only repository and the methods of pushing them:

Snapcraft is where the packages are stored and loaded from, and it's a closed-source repo hosted and controlled by Canonical, with no option to configure snap to use a different source. That has advantages for security, if you trust Canonical to vet and take responsibility for the packages on their system, but some people chafe at that lack of control. Compare to flatpak, where you can add arbitrary repos, so any distro vendor can have their own set of packages and versions they've vetted for stability and compatibility, but if I want a different version than my vendor maintains in their remote, I can use a different remote for certain apps instead.

The second issue is that the classical apt system, which used to install .deb packages, was utilised to install snaps instead, so you'd run apt install package and expect a .deb to be installed, but instead it just downloads a script that runs snap install package and you get a snap instead, which is particularly annoying when you previously had it as a deb and it suddenly gets replaced. The argument here is a smooth transition to the "better" system, on the premise that snaps are better and the assumption that users won't care or notice. In some cases (the hiccups mentioned earlier) that just wasn't the case and people got frustrated, but even if it worked, some people (including me) take issue with expecting a deb and getting a snap - if I want a snap, I'll use snap, and if your deb is deprecated, offer me to switch instead of silently installing the alternate source instead.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I use Mint, by the way.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

Linux distros are just the new "101 flavors of Protestantism," complete with radical zealots who believe you will go to Hell for choosing the wrong one.

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[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

As an Ubuntu user, I would never say "Long live Ubuntu".

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

I use both Mint and Archbang. I'm half-dead to myself.

[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Arch is nice, I use it on my laptop, but desktop / daily driver is Debian.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

As long as it follows Unix conventions it is the correct way to computer

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I think I have like 4 different distros near me at any given time now that I think about it. A Debian one for Minecraft and some other game servers, my windows PC, a Mac for music stuff, and my arch laptop, I guess the steam deck technically counts too. Even at work I use all three occasionally.

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