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It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, the fact that a large portion of instances do not federate with 196 has caused our reach to be reduced, with many communities creating their own 196es.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

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[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 92 points 2 weeks ago

lol their banner says "and fuck tankies"

i am glad i am not so terminally online that the scariest thing in the world to me is people who think china is swell or whatever

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago

I can't imagine forming a worldview that requires you to both know the word tankie and hate them

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 weeks ago

It involves knowing the word "Tankie" but also knowing nothing about communism, socialism, tankies, geopolitics, capitalism, liberalism, fascism, reality etc. It's just a pure vibes based existence where you have an evil enemy to hate who only likes bad things for no reason or benefit to themselves.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

They love the aesthetics of intellectualism, but also hate to read history, study present geopolitics, or even listen to people from other non-Western countries.

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[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

my ex started going through a "grrr tankies r the worst thing ever" phase a bit before we broke up. they were basically so terminally online they had no understanding of what people were actually like. so they thought communists genuinely wanted to like... do fascism. they just thought commies were fascists, because ????? i think it was a vibes based thing bc muh authoritarianism.

idk they were also abusive so i dont try to figure out their thoughts that much even tho i rly want to pick apart that bit specifically cos i dont really get it either blob-sleep

[-] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 week ago

That's 196 alright. I used to lurk on the community on reddit, but after becoming a marxist and seeing how they are just anticommunist I stopped bothering with it lol

[-] KatGirl@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

/s You don't understand, its neither Washington nor Beijing, but Beijing is far worse and is imperialist!!!1!1!!

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 75 points 2 weeks ago

In addition, lemmy.world has a pretty great reputation, being one of the most popular instances.

lol

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago

"Your boos mean nothing I've seen what makes you cheer"

[-] goferking0 30 points 2 weeks ago

Now I wonder if they're move was the reason for the flat worlders are valid positions and allowed on world announcement

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 75 points 2 weeks ago

Damnit I thought Hexbear was moving to lemmy.word and that would have made me laugh hard

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Edie@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

Lmao, banned from MeanwhileOnGrad

Why is there racism and fascism in my anti-communism????

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 weeks ago

Tankieism is when the admins force you to use pronouns.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago

Wasn't 196 like basically the determining factor behind why we defederated from Blåhaj Lemmy?

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 73 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Blahaj wanted to defend their lib 196 community and their chasers more than they wanted to be federated with all the trans leftists here on Hexbear.

And look where that left them.

Hilarious.

Maybe now they can admit their mistakes, remove their toxic mods, and we can be friends again as it should be. Not counting on it though

[-] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe now they can admit their mistakes, remove their toxic mods, and we can be friends again as it should be. Not counting on it though

i assume this is a joke, but in case you (or anyone else) is unaware this will never happen, ada is also a turbo lib, she got offended over a "death to nato" comment

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe she'll change her tune now that 196 bailed on her for not being liberal enough.

Death to NATO of course.

[-] combat_doomerism@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i wont hold my breath tbh

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

[...] and we can be friends again as it should be.

Quick somebody draw the Arch of Reunification except the one lady's a bear furry and the other lady's a shark scalie and the map of Korea is replaced with I dunno the trans symbol with a fediverse logo in it or something

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep, moss is the ableist head mod that posted carcosa's dm to 196 to cause drama, and that ada refused to moderate

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[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 66 points 2 weeks ago

Thought this was badposting for a second

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[-] Yukiko@hexbear.net 64 points 2 weeks ago

These are the people you sold your soul to, blahaj admins, and they're just leaving. susie-laugh

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago

(and has a team that is 40% trans)

So your moderation team of a nominally trans safe space is majority cis. No wonder /c/196 sucked so hard lmao. I'll guess they'll fit right in in lemmy.world.

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

actually insane to say 40% like that's a flex. ghoulish

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

they sucked because they are liberals larping as anarchists

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Tankies and the unbearable burden of being right all the time, example 7,191

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago

blahaj.zone admins have a tendency to moderate rather heavy-handedly. Mod choices are rarely, if ever, checked by my team, and bans are often given for things that are not in violation of our rules. This is because Ada runs lemmy.blahaj.zone as a very curated community, often removing and banning for matters that are, in my opinion, based on opinion rather than objectivity. I have little against that, and think that, as the owner, she has every right to choose how to run her community. That being said, I don’t think its the right community for us.

An instance rules have priority over the rules of a comm??? wowee

[-] miz@hexbear.net 48 points 2 weeks ago

objectivity

and other bedtime stories for liberals

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago

Objectivity is when I think something is correct, and subjectivity is when other people think something I disagree with.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago

NATO-Leftist world is moving to Liberal World? Good. They’re a match made in heaven.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Its more like Axis world with its new policy of "Respectful Dissent" that will let users post things like antivaxx, flat earth and holocaust denial as long as they are "civil" about it, and if comm mods ban people for posting that in their comms they will be punish in turn by the world admins

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago

Tankie Tankie Tankie Tankie Tankie.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago

and where did that bring you, Ada?

back-to-me

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago

With .world's new recent policy of "respectful dissent" and allowing chud misinformation to thrive, I predict these clowns will start going mask-off there and say the most heinous shit.

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago

They (the 196 mod team) got a response from Ada, the blahaj admin they're leaving because of their beef with: (emphasis mine)

I thought this was meant to be on good terms? What about your post is fostering good will? It’s nothing but trashing on me…

To be clear, every post and user I removed was due to queerphobia, transphobia, trolling or spam, issues that broke the instances rules. Some of that bigotry was was implicit rather than explicit, like dog whistles, tone policing etc. Some of it was the “just asking questions” transphobia that pervades most corporate owned social media spaces.

This is the way I have moderated this instance from before the time I handed this community to moss. When lemmy was just taking off, I asked for people to mod the 196 community after it was abandoned by its original creators, and passed it over to moss when she raised her hand.

So if the goal is for this to be civil, maybe don’t paint me as the bad guy for moderating in a way I have done from before your community was created here. What feels like “moderating by vibes” to you, is lengthy experience with community development, and a decade navigating queer and gender diverse communities, and knowing what I want from them. As moss said, this is ideological differences in how low grade transphobia and queerphobia should be dealt with. moss is ok with community pushback for the low grade stuff rather than moderation, whereas I’ll just remove it.

That’s what I wouldn’t compromise on, and that has been the way the instance has run for years now.

It feels like every time I extend 196 a hand, you bite it. I gave the community to moss and started this whole thing. I told another instance admin no when they asked 196 to remove their banner. moss then went and leaked the DMs from said admin, forcing me to remove the post, and then had a public complaint session about me for removing the post.

I have asked 196 for years now to have an active blahaj.zone mod so that someone can deal with the blahaj.zone reports that constantly come through and build up, but still, the best we got were mods with alt accounts that get checked every couple of days, leaving me to deal with the build up of reports on 196. Sometimes they would hang around there for days while I waited for a 196 mod to log in and look at them. And because you don’t like the way I deal with them, you drag me over the coals for my moderation style, despite no one from 196 stepping up to deal with those reports on a regular basis.

I was told that you were thinking about moving to another instance. I offered my support if you decided to stay or to leave. And that was the last I heard of it, until one of your mods (possibly you if I remember correctly) told the community you were organising something with lemmy.world, and I had to hear that second hand. And then, when things were finalised and the decision to move was locked in, once more, I heard about it second hand, after your team made a public post, because no one from 196 could be bothered to tell me before posting.

So no, you don’t get to paint me as the unreasonable admin who moderates by “vibes”. If you want to point the finger at me, at least own your own mistakes, rather than asking for good will and civility and then dumping on me when the chance presents itself.

lol, lmao even.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe Ada will learn something from this, don't side with the chasers over other trans people. back-to-me-shining

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago

The combination of not involving the community in the decision, only providing a vague reason and locking the original community really rubs me the wrong way.

Lmaoooo the mods did this unilaterally. Hexbear, the evil authoritarian tankies, have more democracy and discourse

[-] gramxi@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

do these dorks really think a subreddit clone is some kind of trademarked enterprise? Just spin up a new one and let people decide if your "moderatorial" prowess convinces people that it's worth moving over. However this does make me think that it would be a pretty funny bit if we made a Hexbear Embassy comm on .world.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

might as well shut down their whole section of the website and move to reddit.welt

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.

For you guys

you guys

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you guys

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you guys

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[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago

anyone that would choose to go to lemmy.world deserves to be there really

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

moderatorial and ideologial

I know policing the use of English is dumb but I can't help it

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Oh thank god it won’t shit up my all feed on my instance that fully blocks Libby.world when I browse logged out

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck yeah purge those disgusting fucking chasers. Will East Blahaj tear down the wall? Will the tanks not stop at the fin? 🤔

[-] Civility@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago
[-] bunnygirl@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Main post:

edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.

From the thread:

Moving out of LBZ doesn’t mean we’re not a pro-trans community anymore. As far as moderation goes, nothing is changing. If we see an influx of transphobes or bad actors, we’ll do the same thing we’ve always done and simply ban them.

How are we supposed to square this with the rationale for the break being to get away from stricter moderating?

I’m saying our moderation isn’t changing. Like, the rules page is word for word the same as it was in LBZ. We’re still not tolerating MAGA shit, transphobes, tankie shit, etc.

(emphasis and italics mine)
liberals are just liars and I'm not even sure they understand they are lying here

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[-] goferking0 26 points 2 weeks ago

Bets on how long they last on world?

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago
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