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I was watching the RFK Jr questioning today and when Bernie was talking about healthcare and wages I felt he was the only one who gave a real damn. I also thought "Wow he's kinda old" so I asked my phone how old he actually was. Gemini however, wouldnt answer a simple, factual question about him. What the hell? (The answer is 83 years old btw, good luck america)
By the way...
Local LLM gang represent! ✌️
Local LLMs aren't perfect but are getting more usable. There's abliterated models and uncensored fine tunes to choose from if you don't like your LLM rejecting your questions.
Why would you use a chatbot to attempt to obtain factual information?
I mostly can't understand why people are so into "LLMs as a substitute for Web search", though there are a bunch of generative AI applications that I do think are great. I eventually realized that for people who want to use their cell phone via voice, LLM queries can be done without hands or eyes getting involved. Web searches cannot.
Because web search was intentionally hobbled by Google so people are pushed to make more searches and see more ads.
I still use web search all the time, I just don’t use Google. There are great alternatives:
Do any of them actually work? As in, you search something and it gives you relevant results to the whole thing you typed in?
I’ve used DuckDuckGo for a long time, so I would say yes. But the best way to figure that out is just to try it for a while. There is literally nothing to lose.
It’s always going to depend on what you’re searching for. I just tried searching for home coffee roasting on Swiss Cows and all of the results were legit, no crappy spam sites.
Marginalia is great for finding obscure sites but many normal sites don’t show up there. Million Short is a similar idea but with a different approach to achieving it.
The problem of search is actually extremely hard because there are millions of scam and spam sites out there that are full of ads and either AI slop or literally stolen content from other popular sites. Somehow these sites need to be blocked in order to give good results. It’s a never-ending, always-evolving battle, just like blocking spam in email (I still have to check my spam folder all the time because legit emails end up flagged as spam).
DDG and Ecosia are proxies for Bing. I didn't check, but I'm guessing the others are too. Most "independent" search engines are.
The major exception is Startpage, which is a proxy for Google.
Would saying “Gemini, open the Wikipedia page for Bernie Sanders and read me the age it says he is”, for example, suffice as a voice input that both bypasses subject limitations and evades AI bullshitting?
Gemini refuses to answer
Copilot seems to know the current date and calculates the age from that
ChatGPT is clueless
Idk if it bypasses limitations, you can try. As for bullshiting, no. The AI almost certainly does not have the ability to go and open a webpage. If it was trained on wikipedia, it may or may not give you the age listed at the time of it's training. If not, it will likely take a different source and pretend it is from wikipedia. Either way, it will likely bullshit you about doing what you asked while giving you outdated/missourced information.
Now the number may be correct, I imagine Bernies real age is readily available, but it will confidently lie about how it got the information.
Web searches cannot
Web search by voice was a solved problem in my recent memory. Then it got shitty again
Confirmed
Dunno if your typo was intentional or not, but all I see in this thread is that somehow a typo is a way to bypass whatever block they have on discussion related to political figures. Which is bonkers. The great minds at the Goog somehow missed a pretty obvious workaround.
Or you can ask it to respond in pirate English, bypasses a lot of blocks
R3g3n3r47|ng w17h 1337 5P34k i5 7h3 n3w h0tn355.
Which feels poetic.
arrr my matee. Where be the nearest fine madens I've been seein' in this here advert? 🦜🏴☠️⚔️
What's the knowledge cutoff date for the model? Is that even a thing on Gemini? I've been pretty intentional about not using it.
Is it from before Musk became such an overt political figure? I genuinely don't know.
It looks like they disabled responses about current major political figures.
As OP's query regarding RFK Jr. yielded a response he can be considered "not a major political figure" then, I guess. Nice burn, Gemini 🤭.
Not just Bernie, it doesn't reply to questions about trump either. I guess they don't want the AI to reply to political questions with biased opinions from the internet, which is fair.
The only mildly infuriating thing is that people keep posting this shit
They've politicised age! What's next!?🕴️
This will be a blanket filter on his name, not his age. And if anything they are trying to de-politicise gemini.
Not that i agree with that practice, personally.
But its not fair to say they are politicising age by omitting any responses related to a political figure.
I know why it happened, my comment wasn't written to be serious, sorry for the confusion
Haven't they been doing that for years?
AOC and Ted Cruz got the same response, as did "who is $X".
Google has implemented restrictions on Gemini's ability to provide responses on political figures and election-related topics. This is primarily due to the potential for AI to generate biased or inaccurate information, especially in the sensitive and rapidly evolving landscape of politics. Here are some of the key reasons behind this decision:
This seems reasonable, honestly.
So American LLM's get to censor politics of their choosing but Chinese LLM's do not. Amazjng.
How about a more apt comparison to the type of stuff DeepSeek has gone viral for censoring?
Does not use the word concentration camp
Despite the injustices they faced many Japanese sought to demonstrate their loyalty to the Unites States
Look at my amazing propaganda
My sides
That’s because Google is not only a shit company, it’s also in Trump’s pocket. They changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico for US users. WTF?
Gemini sounds like me in my 20's "don't talk trouble, won't be trouble"
Tf is Gemini?
Google’s generative AI
Yeah it won't answer for any alive current political figures. Meh.
I guess braindead counts as a form of dead
It answered for RFK jr
I think the worm ate enough of his brain for him to be considered dead.