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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our true power comes from mitochondria which is the power house of the cell. In this house we respect biology.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And when the mitochondria rebel against the tyranny of the nucleus?

[–] AfricanGrey@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Americans don't really do anything as recent times have proven. They just kind of sit there on their phones are their country gets overthrown.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

generalstrikeus.com

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, you think that the same people who couldn't be bothered to vote are suddenly going to organize themselves and go on strike? What makes you think this will happen?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be everyone. I think I saw somewhere that the number just has to be like 3-6%

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most places I have worked expect to have a few people out on any day.

Even a 10% cut back across the board wouldn't mean a lot, especially if other workers were willing to scab for overtime.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good point, but a general strike is far more than just not working:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_strike

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If people had put a tenth of that amount of work in, we would have had Bernie as the Dem nominee in 2020 and 2024.

I see nothing to make me think that my fellow citizens are going to organize themselves.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sadly as people, we often don't see what's necessary, or don't want to inconvenience ourselves, until it's absolutely necessary, or often too late. Someone else will always take care of it before it's a problem I have to deal with right?

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

OP is not wrong, but both are important.

If the billionaires were not concerned by the potential threat to their existence posed by democracy, they would not feel so motivated to destroy it.

Democratic government is among the most powerful tools that can be wielded by the working class against the capitalists.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would like to know what this mythical democratic government exists alongside capitalism. As long as we have a society that's dominated by capitalism and capitalists, there is no such thing as a democratic representative government.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know this is just splitting hairs but for brief periods of time democratic principles did coexist with a capitalist system. For example, the post-WWII economic and civil rights booms existed inside of a capitalist system. It's just that they can't coexist for very long because they're based on competing ideologies. Plus if it takes a world war to accomplish a brief respite in the class struggle it's a very costly coexistence.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

No it didnt lmao

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago (5 children)

We can't get people to vote. There's no way we're getting a general strike

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

"getting"? It's a basic democratic right?.... You are a democracy, right? You bombed all those countries in the name of it...

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many people cannot afford to strike

[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many people cannot afford to not strike. Thousands of workers whose jobs depend on federal funding are uncertain about their livelihood. The coming rise in prices due to tariff nonsense will devastate working-class families.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Those people cannot afford not to strike

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The cynic in me says there's a big overlap between the unemployed and the unrepresented, so to speak.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

There's a reason why for the longest time there was a lot of vagrancy (still are) and loitering laws. Was so that the unemployed and homeless couldnt have a voice without making themselves a target

[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I tried organizing a board game night with 4 people. Literally impossible.

The most difficult part of every Dungeons and Dragons campaign is getting five working adults in the same room at the same time.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 104 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The owners would last 10 days, especially if the duration was announced ahead of time. Maybe a general strike that had no end date, once it went 3 months or so, would have the desired effect.

Going Luigi on a bunch of them would be faster, more effective, with stronger effects that lasted longer. Probably fewer total deaths.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly. They’d see 10 days and go “okay I can hunker down and outlast it.” But a general strike with no designated end? They’d capitulate after only a few days. Giving them a timeline only allows them to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Kidney stones don’t suck because they hurt; The pain is similar to a bad muscle cramp. Bad, but not unbearable. They suck so much because you don’t know how long they’re going to hurt for. It could be a day, it could be two weeks, it could be a month, and there’s no light at the end of the tunnel until you know it’s passed.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, 10 days is way more than enough, it's even overkill.

If the full country, all workers, stopped for one (1) day, the billionaire elite would loose their shit.

Because they would instantly know that they lost control of the narrative, and that the people realized that it's them who have the elite by the balls, not the other way around, and they'd come begging to the table.

Americans aren't at that stage yet, but there's a chance that this cabinet and their incompetence will finally go too far and break the camels back.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

I think their point is you can’t just commit for only 10 days. It might take less than 10 days, but if that’s your limit, they might try and tough it out.

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[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same reason they freaked the fuck out when we all had to shelter at home because of COVID. Didn't last long because they needed meat for the grinder and forced a lot of back to work regardless of the risks.

[–] goferking0 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And only callex those essential workers heros while not doing anything that would actually help them. Like increasing pay or protections

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Ask any patient at a VA hospital. If the US calls you a hero, stop whatever you're doing and run away. Do not walk. Do not stop to help others. Get out of whatever situation they are calling you a hero for being in. They are doing that as a means of absolving themselves of responsibility towards you.

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Be prepared! A general strike is scheduled for Mayday 2028, with UAW and CTU.

SAVE AND PLAN WHAT YOU CAN!

So that you can strike yourself, and so that you can help your neighbors, your coworkers, your comrades strike!

We've got 3 more years to prepare for ~10 critical days. If we are all serious about it and spread the word, and are truly prepared for the event, our demands and thus our conditions will improve greatly!

It is up to us.

Do we choose to accept the working situation we have become entangled in, or are we willing to sacrifice for something better?

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In 2028. The fuck? Now, my person. Now!

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Random people posting "General Strike Now!" on social media has been happening for years and nothing ever comes from it. A coordinated action like this, asking people to risk their jobs and go without pay for a period of time, is not going to happen overnight, especially when most people have zero experience with strikes. It's more important to take the time to do it right so that it has a higher chance of success than to rush into it. This is particularly important as this strike has the potential to serve as a "proof of concept" further down the line. Collective action is always an uphill battle, and for it to succeed requires careful planning, preparation, and patience.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Planning it for further out gives people opportunity to organize and save for missing 10+ days of paychecks. It does feel like if we wait that long though we'll be in a hopeless situation. Maybe organizing smaller general strikes like state or city wide in the meantime would help prepare and buy time for the big one

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[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If we could wipe a few trillion dollars out of existence in a few days all the rich would freak the fuck out.

People like musk have so much invested in the market and live off those investments by borrowing against those investments. They pay a fraction of their taxes that way through capital gains being taxed at a lower rate. The 1% have so much invested and all they care about is money!

If we held out long enough someone might just push trump out a window.

People are fucked either way, might as well go out on your own terms. That and its our last option outside of armed revolution.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Workers unite! A general strike is solidarity with everyone, except those delinquent bastards who do no work: Boards, CEOs and upper management.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There aren’t enough Pinkertons and cops to make everyone go back to work.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t that part of what made the Occupy Movement so threatening to capitalists? The problem was however that it had no direction. The point was disruption, but there wasn’t a clear goal or demand till the end.

I’m all for memes, but what specifically would a general strike accomplish other than the governing class using every method, including police violence and fear, to immediately try to suppress the opposition?

In a society where the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck (by design) a 10 day strike will never happen. You’d be lucky to get 5% of the populace to participate.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Occupy refused to point out leaders knowing that Fox News would assassinate them in the media. Since they didn’t hand over leaders to assassinate, Fox News ginned up the story that the movement was directionless.

P.S. Please don’t “akually” about “Fox News” vs “The Media” in this context Its now a distinction without a difference. They’re all owned by the side winning the class war.

[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

General strikes are outlawed and illegal under the taft-hartley act. Fight at the polls to overturn it.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kinda. Mostly. Sympathy strikes are outlawed, but one of the major unions is trying to get all contracts to end on May, 1, 2028. That would allow for a legal "general strike."

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

No, electoral politics won't ever get the job done, however we're also long past the point of a general strike being enough on its own.

Fascism has been here longer than people are comfortable to admit, but it is going in to full blast mode now, and the masks are well and truly off, those in power will not hesitate to use whatever force they need to to maintain it, and that requires full forced self defence in return, not playing nice (which is what a strike is).

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