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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine being married to an orange clown who never came to this realization, even though he got a daughter.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine realising he wants to fuck her

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As he has repeatedly said.

We oughta weaponize far-right rhetoric against him and rile up his base by telling them that a Jew cucked their leader and bred his daughter, "how can he keep our country safe if he cannot even keep his family safe?" etc etc

[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

New nickname for Ivanka: Challah

Why? She's Jewish bre(a)d

[–] Zabjam@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. Their god-king can not do anything wrong in their eyes. So this would have no effect on them. But you will normalize their rhetoric with it. "See, even non-maga people say it"

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

He can fall from grace. Too bad he'll bring about his own undoing because we're utterly incompetent. And weaponizing hipocrisy hardly is "normalizing their rhetoric". Anyway, I'm already busy with neo-fascists on this side of the pond.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In my experience that doesn't usually happen, instead they simply see the daughter as another piece of property theirs to control (which is often framed as "protect"), and draw validation of their (toxic) masculinity from (making themselves feel like "big men" by threatening to harm any guy who comes near her for example).

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is my favorite video to help deprogram these people

[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

While I hate living in the south there are some really cool people here. Like this dude. Thanks for sharing.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was good, as are many of the yt comments, which is unusual lol, thanks for sharing

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know how they did it, but the channel has managed to create a very wholesome community for deprogramming people on the far right. I highly recommend them!

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't really watch much yt (E: but it's always good to have decent recommendations to make to those who do), but I'll give them a look, definitely made a good first impression 👍

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'll second the recommendation, Belle (the guy in that video is Beau who used to run the channel) does a great job. Also just really good coverage of current events.

[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, they can only ever imagine wanting to protect a woman they don't want to sleep with, quite funny.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

a woman they don’t want to sleep with,

Sadly this isn't always the case, there's often a deeply incestuous vibe (and sometimes more than that) to that kind of ownership some men take of their daughters (I don't really feel like looking through the results for this search right now, but I remember several images of men wearing t shirts saying shit like "the only one who gets to touch my daughter is me" and creepy shit like that).

There are so many different layers of fucked up to a relationship between a misogynistic man and his daughter., it really is so unfortunate, but it's just one more way in which the patriarchy maintains itself.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Those purity ring things with dads freaks me out too. Fucking weird.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Oh yeah, those things are creepy as fuck..

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An incestuous vibe

Not in every case, but often, the phrase "emotional incest" applies. This is when a parent treats their child the same they would a partner or potential partner. Ask me why I know about it lol

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Yup. And sorry to hear you know from personal experience.. Sending you a virtual hug.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

There are those creepy as fuck groups where the daughters have to pledge their virginity to their fathers, too.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

Am I a joke to you?

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Lot of them (at least of prior generations) internalized that misogyny and think it's their place. Disgusting to see.

Set up audio for a Bible study of 70+ year old women. Shit you not the video they were watching said "you know sometimes our moods are like the cloths in our closets"

The look in the crowd was not horror but nodding along.

The 50 sonething feminist coworker was mortified.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When I was in healthcare a co-worker and I were chatting with a patient while setting up a blood draw. She said she was in an engineering program at (local school).

My co-worker told her how brave she was because "You know us women aren't good at math."

My co-worker was a 40 something nurse practitioner with three daughters. You just know this otherwise very smart woman is going to pass that thought disease down to her kids.

[–] pointnull@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dumbass here. What does that phrase about moods and clothes mean? that a proverb ?

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Like a woman's feelings are as trivial as changing clothes

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or that they need to be able to change moods at will to suit the situation, instead of being allowed to express their feelings. Ever.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Or they got plenty of em and switch em frequently.

How ever one reads the statement, it's making the connection that female emotions are something different then malr emotions and that is just silly. Its just that woman are raised to deal differently with them as men do and neither way is healthy for any of those genders.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago

that's the thing with hegemony. it's so pervasive in how it programs you that you don't even see it. you're not even aware there are alternatives until someone jostles you awake. we live in a patriarchal white supremacist christofascist society. the enforcers of this status quo don't all even understand that these are not genetically imparted truths inherent to our living situations, but rather social constructs enforced on us.

and i'm sure i have hegemonic blind spots too. i try my best to see out into the world and hear perspectives that aren't my own so i can have access to the full truth. i fall short sometimes. none of us can see all things everywhere. the best you can do is have patience with sleep walkers who are non violent threats, protect people from violent threats, and be open to the idea that you can be wrong, and hope that by living with kindness and compassion you can do your part to create the enlightened society we all dream of, even the christofascist followers, where all are free.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I don't have enough and I have no fashion sense? Surprisingly accurate analogy for me. /hj

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm sure there's some context to that story.

I had that but with having an SO and realizing that all people are people with the same depth of life experience as me.