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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Is he suggesting that his actions are bringing about the apocalypse? If so, I agree.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

None of the women I've dated have enough post apocalyptic potential either. One of them said they would kill themselves if a zombie apocalypse started. It takes a strong person for that, man or woman.

[–] Katrisia@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are you implying suicide is a weak option? I don't believe so. It's not a stronger stance to side with a survival instinct; you could say it's actually the easiest thing to do. It requires nothing more than to exploit our biology (adrenaline, aggression, etc.). Not to downplay the complexity of all of us animals, but it's not extraordinary to behave like that, just as a lion or a rat would do too.

The other option requires something unique to humanity (until now and as far as we know) that is to question our actions, to reflect upon them, to give them a personal value, and to make decisions upon all of this. Few animals commit suicide and probably most do so due to a pathological state and not a philosophical argument behind. To embrace this is very hard; it goes against our body's program.

I won't say it's necessarily stronger, but neither is it weaker. I admire the honesty and bravery of doing such questions.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Suicide is definitely the weakest option someone can take. Maybe you've never been suicidal, but I have, and that feeling is so strong. It wouldn't feel like anything to end it, just a release. But it takes absolutely everything to keep going.

You may have a point about surviving being instinctual, and therefore someone who is too dumb to even consider suicide I'm any situation, isn't stronger for not having the thought. But I really don't think that's most people. I think most people that would have to struggle to survive an apocalypse, would absolutely be pushing through the urge to end it. Unless all that's left is savages, suicide is weak as hell.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

Holy hell Elon has a galactically discrepant self-image.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Lmao. In a post apocalyptic setting, Elon Musk is a trophy.

He'd be paraded around on a leash.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Think Channing Tatum in This is the End.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 13 hours ago

Oh yeah, what is Grimes up to?

It’s not often a woman breaks a man so badly he has to find a surrogate for his “x”

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on who caught him. He'd be paraded around on a leash if he was lucky

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Guess he'd be lucky with me then.

I'd even scavenge the stores to get him a little "Musky" tag for his leash.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want to be a warlord. I want to be a lovelord.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I can think when I see this picture is how good that fit would have looked if it just wasn't elon wearing it.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I hear is "When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city to see a marching band"

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

MCR is also the best band in history.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

All that money won't mean shit if the economy collapses. Musk is such a goddamn clown.

Elon's wealth comes from the value of Tesla stock - an overvalued PoS stock that has never paid a single dividend. His twitter loan was secured by Tesla stock, so the more the price tanks, at some point you'd think the loan would be called due.

But hey, Elon is now in charge of government contracts and spending, what luck.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I keep saying that all the billionaires are imaginary. All their money is tied up in concepts. ;ie stocks, bonds etc. hell even land will be worthless in an apocalypse. At most their maybe worth a couple hundred in mill in cash liquidity. Which will also become worthless in an apocalypse....

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Like, we all joke. But Musk's a carnival barker at heart. He'd fit right in alongside the Colonel Qaddafi and General Butt Naked crowd. The Northern Alliance was overflowing with ego-bloated horn dogs. The Columbian cartels are rife with tin pot business goons.

You could change Noriega or Pahlavi or Bong Bong Marcos out with Elon Musk and nobody would notice a difference. Hell, there's a reason a guy like Milei is bro-ing out Elon every chance he gets. They're the same kind of guy.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You underestimate the atrophy having no financial needs or stress concerning any real aspect of survival can create. If we go back to caveman times, no one that has never experienced a blister on their feet is going to be surviving very long.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't think "caveman times" is in the cards in Elon's lifetime

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I just want to remind everyone that those who call for war have never experienced it, and the closer you experience it, the less you want it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The folks who come back from war and get folded into the police state are still hungry to relive their "glory" days. The dime store torture goons that have climbed up the rectum of the political system and now occupy Governorships and Senate Seats are sadists who long for the rush of hot blood splatter and the siren's song of human screams. The gangs of rapists unleashed across Gaza, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq by their IDF commanders are like locusts - they've been created to destroy and that's all they know how to do.

The closer you are to war the more is transforms you into a creature of war.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So is he just coming out and saying he's driving the country into the ground? Is that the point of this? How does this idiot still have any support?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

His supporters all think they have warlord potential

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

I've probably got twice the warlord potential he has. Which is to say, I have really shit warlord potential.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 167 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Moron billionaire class. Think they’ll survive the collapse of humanity in their bunkers. The reality being they will be murdered by their staff on day one.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Or simply die in a flood since they can’t fix the pump.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every bunker needs an air intake and exhaust

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Praetorian guards again, go figure

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

"I am setting this country up for anarchy with governance by warlords. "

I wouldn't even pick Elon in a fight with Meal Team 6.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, because when the world crumbles, it's going to be that walking bag of mayonnaise and bile that people are going to want in charge.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's since deleted the post, but in a followup comment he mentioned the irony of talking about becoming a warlord using a picture of Max, a noted warlord killer.

As typical for all right-wingers, Musk is utterly incapable of critically examining art.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He really thinks that cyberpunk is cool and does not understand any of the philosophy or ideology behind it.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Cyberpunk IS cool as long as I get to experience it as a little mental retreat, a neon colored view of the what-if from the comfort of my chair in my paid off house in a country with universal healthcare and strong worker rights.

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 107 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Musk's power only comes from his wealth. That wealth is in a currency that is tied directly to the world's trust in the US government. That trust is being very quickly diminished. If things get 'Mad Max' bad all of his wealth will be absolutely worthless.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The vast majority of his wealth is stock market speculation, not even US currency.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Toyota is a car company that makes solid cars with an anonymous CEO. It has a P/E ratio of about 7.5 and a market cap of about $230 billion.

Tesla is a car company that makes a few solid cars, and one absolutely ridiculous vehicle that is the laughing stock of trucks. It has a CEO that most of the world has an intensely negative opinion of, and that negative opinion is highest among the people wealthy enough to consider buying a Tesla. It has a P/E ratio of approximately 175 and a market cap of $918 billion.

If Tesla's P/E ratio fell to something more realistic, let's be extremely generous and say 7, it would be worth only $37 billion, about 4% of the current value. Realistically, it should be significantly below that. When people are regularly spraypainting swastikas on your vehicles, your P/E ratio should be lower than other automobile manufacturers because it's a sign that your future growth prospects may be slightly impaired by the unwillingness of people to buy your vehicles.

When Tesla's value does collapse (and I'm convinced it's a "when" not an "if") it will crater Musk's net worth, because at least half of it is due to his Tesla stock.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The more chilling thing to me being that he is causing, wants, and/or expects this as someone "in power", for wont of a better term. Is this a desire (definitely) or coming to terms with things already set in motion? I hope it's just a shitpost, but who knows at this point?

[–] DNS@discuss.online 27 points 1 day ago

It's a nazi eugenics dream to wipe the country off of undesirables and initiate your plan of gender affirming individuals as they pop out of tubes. A good reminder thwt a journalist interviewed a billionaire who was showcasing their mega bunker in case everything goes to shit. What bothered the billionaire was how is he able to control his security when the natural order is upside down?

Journalist suggested empathy, to understand and care about your security detail. Billionaire disregarded that and suggested to himself shock collars would be more ideal than empathy.

[–] Curmuffin@fedia.io 64 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If it comes down to it, Elon's own security boys will lug him in the back of the head.

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