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On r/RedditSafety, Reddit admin "worstnerd" posts:

Warning users that upvote violent content

Today we are rolling out a new (sort of) enforcement action across the site. Historically, the only person actioned for posting violating content was the user who posted the content. The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content. This not only minimizes the distribution of the bad content, but it also ensures that the bad content is more likely to be removed. On the other hand, upvoting bad or violating content interferes with this system. 

So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning. We have done this in the past for quarantined communities and found that it did help to reduce exposure to bad content, so we are experimenting with this sitewide. This will begin with users who are upvoting violent content, but we may consider expanding this in the future. In addition, while this is currently “warn only,” we will consider adding additional actions down the road.

We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility. This will have no impact on the vast majority of users as most already downvote or report abusive content. It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem is healthy and that there is no tolerance for abuse on the site.

Some users see this as a reaction to the recent controversy surrounding Luigi Mangione and the fatal shooting of the UnitedHeathCare CEO. There are concerns that this new system (which mods are speculating to be AI-driven) has potential for abuse and censorship, especially given the current vagueness of what is considered a "violent" comment or post.

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Reactions on RedditSafety:

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On PublicFreakout, the sub's moderator shares the admin's message with the note:

"Mind how you are voting because Reddit is about to start spanking folks for votes"

At least some users are already receiving warnings:

The PublicFreakout moderator pledges to stand by their users, at least in the case of one frequently reposted video of a Nazi getting punched...

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In r / cincinnati :

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Several anti Elon Musk subreddits apparently connect this with the recent Reddit drama involving Musk that got WhitePeopleTwitter banned:

Elon gave reddit some attention, now they're changing policies so he doesn't put them on blast again.

Your new president turned his gaze on reddit, now they're changing policies to escape his wrath

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Full list of other subreddits that have shared the admin's post

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[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ban violent content? nah. Ban people that upvote this content? YES! Also, what "violent" content even means?

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The moment I saw this and 50501 sub recommended Lemmy I was out.

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kinda makes me want to create an account so I can get banned.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was thinking... I know there's a script that can overwrite all your past posts, usually as a privacy thing or just a "fuck you" wipe to reddit for monitizing your years of input...

I didn't do that when I left during the non-sence almost 2 years ago because I felt bad destroying that knowledge I left, but sometimes that's how things have to be...

Wouldn't it be nice to wipe your entire 9 years of reddit posts with something fairly mundane but that would hit the threshold for this bullshit new rule?

I'm taking submissions at this time.

[–] UraniumForBreakfast@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I’ve been pushing off coming to Lemmy for a while.

I, personally, am not even going to entertain giving anymore traffic to Reddit even to edit my previous posts.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This is just another way to subvert the truth, and control the outcome of the popular voice.

[–] I_R0_B0_T@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Final nail in the coffin

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Upvoting/downvoting history is a goldmine in terms of both marketing and surveillance. Every user with over a year of organic activity is a goldmine. Maybe you've never ever posted a single controversial opinion online. But you might have upvoted someone else's - BAM, on a list. Or rather, category I assume. Those innocuous clicks reveal a lot more about you than you think. That information WILL be used against you. If you're lucky, only to try and sell you shit you don't need. If unlucky...

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

...you just gave this guy an upvote, and when @Kyrgizion and I head off to the gulag, you'll be next on the list.

EDIT: wait, forgot we were on lemmy. We've got some breathing room until Trump invades the EU.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, to think that the CIA or other gov agencies don't have all this info would be naive. Snowden showed us some of the extent of private info gathering.

It's not certain, and there's also the work and energy to analyze this huge amount of data, but we should cautiously assume they have everything.

And with advancements in AI it will become increasingly easier to parse the data.

Very dystopian.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is this being rolled out for Luigi? This feels like it’s being rolled out for Luigi.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Luigi represents the biggest possible threat to the established order. You can win a war, crush a revolution, and even enslave a people, but it doesn't change the basic math:

A lone gunman can be just as powerful as any CEO, politician, or king in the right moment.

That's the real message that they're trying to suppress, because they know he's going to have copycats as they tighten the noose on the working class.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anti Luigi content suppression is first time where Americans as body of people finally realized how controlled ALL media is ...

Shit even fedi very mods were suppressing it while blaming server owners for it which turned out to be a fat lie...

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Luigi is a scapeboat. There is little evidence he did anything.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 67 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Reddit wants you to cut back on using their platform. I highly recommend alternatives. I, however, might be biased.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i have been looking to no avail

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good news… You’re already there!

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

W…wait… this isn’t Reddit!? 😱

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[–] kava@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

There's a story from Soviet Russia.

A bunch of politicians are in the Kremlin and Stalin is giving a speech outlining some new policy. One politician stands up and angrily yells out- "Stalin! This is wrong! I cannot support this measure". Everyone gasps and looks at him.

Quickly, another politician stands up and replies "Comrade! Don't you know? You cannot say that Stalin is incorrect! We do not do that here."

Stalin ignores these outbursts, tells everyone to settle down and continues the speech.

Of course, this being Stalinist Russia, the man who disagreed with Stalin gets quietly sent to the gulag for a couple of years to learn his lesson.

The second man, however, gets sent to the gulag for 20 years and doesn't come out until he is an old man.

What's the moral of the story? Implicit censorship is so much more powerful than explicit censorship. This is reddit goal. Create an air where people self-regulate their speech. The key is not to say it out loud. It needs to be vague and amorphous and ambiguous.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

So everyone should leave it to starve and wither.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This reminds me of a story told to me by the Ukrainian Master Accordionist Leonid Nosov twenty five years ago when he was my landlord.

Leonid had grown up under the communist regime:

"They would come every month, the party bosses. And they would tell us to do this and not to do that and we would listen very closely but never ask questions. Just nod. Just smile. Thank the boss. Then go back to doing what needed doing. If you don't understand this, then everyone in town would yell at you when the bosses were gone. Because if you don't stay quiet, then they take you away, and then maybe you tell the bosses what everyone is really doing."

I've found that this to be good advice in most corporate settings as well.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

This reminds me of a story told to me by the Ukrainian Master Accordionist Leonid Nosov twenty five years ago when he was my landlord.

What a badass fucking story intro.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is exactly how my last job was... We'd just smile and nod while boss talked about unhinged solutions to problems that didn't exist. We'd then spend the next week or so subtly trying to extract the perceived problem and intent of the request, find a proper solution, and never tell him what we were actually doing just that the thing he wanted is getting resolved. It all had to be very hush hush to prevent him from stepping in and fucking it all up

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[–] kava@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think a lot of people should pay attention and get ready to live like the Slavs did under the Soviets. We might be heading towards a similar period in the US, I think.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They rather reboot digg instead of joining us. I chuckled.

Mark my words: They will scream and stay there. Mods with balls already left that site long ago.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I went and left a bunch of comments telling people about Lemmy, so who knows. Maybe they get removed, maybe I actually get banned on reddit for this.

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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I received one of these fucking warnings!

Been on reddit for fourteen goddamned years, but this is the thing that has finally gotten me off board for good.

Reddit is dead.

[–] InversionOfControl@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yep, same. I went to Reddit as a Digg v4 refugee and got oerma banned for saying, “billionaires, it’s what’s for dinner 🍽️”

Reddit is mostly AI bot bullshit now anyway. Viva la Lemmy

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does this take into account edits? What if someone edited in violent content after it was voted?

[Admin] Great callout, we will make sure to check for this before warnings are sent.

Gods, that shithole is run by fucking clowns.

[–] KAZUO21@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is the soul reason I'm here and today is my first day. I'm still gonna use imgur though

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

sole see, it's just like reddit.

[–] just_Seven@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Same man saw that and instantly jumped ship

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[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Name a more iconic duo than admin posts and 0 upvotes

[–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 week ago

the reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content…

Sounds like the engaged users have decided what the good content is, but it doesn’t align with the opinions of the tech CEO whose dick is tickling the admins tonsils.

Keep going reddit. I’m sure one more form of censorship will make daddy musk love you again.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] DonAntonioMagino@feddit.nl 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm really glad there is Lemmy as an alternative, despite lots of Redditors not believing it is one.

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

Boycott any and all cooperate Amerikkkan social media and platform that follow fascist US laws.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)
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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck Reddit

This shit is exactly what we knew was coming at some point. TPTB see that we all love Luigi and are quite happy to see more CEOs killed. They can't allow us it to happen again

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, this sort of thing has always ended well on that platform

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago

Thought police here we come...

[–] SunkenQueen@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not banned yet but I'm expecting it soon.

I'm Canadian so it's coming for sure. Especially because I can't stay away from telling /r/conservative how stupid they are

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

This really fucking pisses me off because there are a ton of marginalized people who take shit online all the time and these social media services all act like their hands are tied and there's nothing they can do. But this makes it blatantly obvious that they can take action when they want to.

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