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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

Interesting choice of words. "Defends" as in "fails to defend."

[–] some_guy 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

“I get it that it makes people feel good to see people yelling,” Slotkin told the audience. “But not one of those words is stopping the actual things that Donald Trump is doing, and I am about action, not words, and I will stand by that as long as I live.”

Ok, so let's have them. What specific actions are you taking against this madness? We'll wait.

[–] WorkersCorps@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

Democrats horribly misunderstand the political situation we're in where 'action, not words' leaves a communcation vaccuum for MAGA and their GOP supplicants to fill with lies.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

She'll wait for the mass demonstrations, and when they're over, she'll elbow her way to the front of the parade.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, she'll probably condemn any mass protest. Americans hate protestors and have since the civil rights movement. She will pander to the crowd instead of standing up for democracy.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

She'll advocate for them to be crushed by police.

If she gets it, she looks tough on crime and that looks good.

If she doesn't, she can say "Forget all that, people can change! Why do you never want people to change? Don't let perfect be the enemy of good!"

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And then she'll lose to a Republican.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

And then blame the fact she was unpopular with her bad choices on everyone but herself.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Any minute now

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"The senator noted that she also serves Trump voters of Michigan"

There it is. As somebody who has an (R)President, (R)governor, (R)Senator, (R)Congressperson I can tell you that not a single one feels the need to represent my point of view or interests. This statement by Slotkin strikes me as nothing more than idealism that serves to only inhibit the party's ability to pass meaningful legislation.

[–] CyboNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

She's a Democrat representative in a historically Republican area. I know this because she's the actual representative for where I live. She barely won and she understands that Trump voters are also her constituents.

I do agree that she and the rest of them (sans Bernie and AOC) need to do much more. She talks of action but her only actions are just talk..

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

For real, I live in a gop district. Those clowns don't give a single shit about my opinion. People like Slotkin enable Republicans by constantly validating their views, and at this point it feels very much planned and deliberate.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sounds like much less than an AOC.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

AOC and Bernie are the gold standards. Be great if the bootlickers became un-nominatable and unelectable. Would definitey settle for at most NOMINALized

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago

I hate grade inflation so I consider a C a respectable grade. D-

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A O Riverrrrrr!

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Michael: GOB, get rid of the Seaward

Lucille: I'll leave when I'm good and ready

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago

“I get it that it makes people feel good to see people yelling,” Slotkin told the audience. “But not one of those words is stopping the actual things that Donald Trump is doing, and I am about action, not words, and I will stand by that as long as I live.”

Please, Senator, tell us about your actions that are stopping Donald Trump from doing what he's doing. No need to be coy. Its what you "stand by as long as you live". This should be an easy answer for you.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

AOC/Sanders aren't even that leftwing.

It's just an optical illusion looking at them from inside the burgeoning fourth Reich of Stupid Hitler's crazy town.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, go ahead and demean one of the most popular and beloved politicians in office. That‘ll totally make people listen to you. AOC is the single best communicator the Democrats have on their bench. Other Democrats need to be learning from her and making more space for her style of leadership, not talking shit about her. That’s yet another thing they failed to learn from the 2024 election.

I think it’s pretty telling that to much of the progressive and leftist base, Slotkin comes across as a Republican from the 1990’s (with all her Reagan-worship crap) and is generally not a particularly popular politician outside of neoliberal DC power circles. While on the other hand, AOC is incredibly popular across the nation, and is widely liked and respected not only because she comes across as a real genuine human being, but because her ideas and political approach appeal to almost everyone, including many Republicans. I heard some interviews with Trump voters where they were asked how they felt about AOC, and a surprising number of them said they agreed with a lot, but not all of her opinions, but they consistently said they respected her because they believed she meant what she said and that she seemed to genuinely care about the right groups of people.

From the end of the article:

Ocasio-Cortez “best reflects the core values” of the Democratic Party, a CNN poll of voters recently found.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Liberals will always walk lockstep with fascists to prevent progressives from ever having a voice. Happened in Germany, happened in Turkey, most recently happened in France.

Neo-liberals are the evil they claim to fight. Just with rainbow pins.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ocasio-Cortez “best reflects the core values” of the Democratic Party, a CNN poll of voters recently found.

-- but not the core values of the democratic leadership, as evidenced by pelosi cockblocking aoc from the oversight committee; sanders cockblocked from the nomination in the last 2 presidential elections; and the palestinians blocked from speaking at the convention in the last election; among other examples.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

100%

That’s why it’s so dangerous for Democratic leadership to keep ignoring and actively pushing against AOC’s popularity. The ideological distance between Democratic leadership and the voters that put them in power is vast. That’s a serious problem that they don’t seem to be reckoning with.

I do suspect it’s getting to the point where AOC and Sanders will either do their level best to somehow conduct a coup in DNC leadership… or, just say “fuck it” and actually make a real new party that actually does what Democrats have been saying they would do in campaign promises for decades. And, you know, give no quarter to fascists.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

That’s a serious problem that they don’t seem to be reckoning with.

and nor will they ever have to since they're the only perceived alternative to the republicans and the surest sign of it is schumer getting re-lected next time around despite his support for the latest cr.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Constituent Kristin Fellows, 62, asked the Democrats how they are pushing back against Musk and President Donald Trump.

“We know that you are against these current awful happenings going on in the world, but it is simply not enough for you to repeatedly tell us that you are,” Fellows said, according to the Associated Press, and the question was met with a round of applause from the audience.

“My job is to be more than just an activist. It is to answer the call when there’s an immigration raid and we need to figure out where our people are,” Slotkin said. “All of those things require me to be more than just an AOC.”

Slotkin ought to know where "our people" are since she voted for legislation requiring any immigrant who's baselessly charged with petty nonsense like shoplifting to be detained (archived).

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

but it is simply not enough for you to repeatedly tell us that you are

How patronizing, coming from a do-nothing time-serving coward.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

These "moderate" Dems sound like they belong on Fox News. She just couldn't resist taking a shot at a progressive to try to score political points with the fascists.

The thing is, they just see her as a pandering weakling who's too much of a coward to pick a side. And they're right.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

It makes me want to sing "Which Side Are You On" just hearing her blithering bullshit.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They work so hard to be uninspiring. Right now it would take so little. Just, anything. But instead they chide us for expecting anything...

Edit: worst typo ever

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

Learned helplessness from the controlled opposition. It's like listening to a member of the Washington Generals explain how next time, they'll beat those Globetrotters.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck these people.

I used to be a Moderate. But then the Right blew up the Overton Window and went full Fascist.

I didn’t move along with them. I stayed fucking put. But now, relative to them, I am a Radical.

And I’m ok with that.

We shouldn’t be forced to move right.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How incredibly inhumane. Immigrants built this country. If anyone here isn't the descendant of an immigrant; they are an either an descendant of a native American to survived the genocide, or of a chattel slave who survived the anti-black violence that's been prevalent in this country for over a hundred years.

If the ideal version of America is supposed to be freedom and democracy where anyone looking to make a better life for themselves is welcome, then anti-immigrant sentiment is anti-american.

[–] SexualPolytope 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you mean descendant.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes! That's the right word. Fixed, thanks

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm sure she still has friends at the CIA who can find them for her.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It'll take until 2034. Don't use her up early.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck man AOC 2025 if we could swing it

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, I'm just a lot more pessimistic about how bad things get between now and 8 years from now.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

You ain't wrong brother

[–] Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Slotkin might as well be another Sinema.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I think Fetterman claimed that seat first.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Grow some ovaries