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In a scattershot pattern that now extends from coast to coast, continental US states have been announcing new hotspots of chronic wasting disease (CWD).

The contagious and always-fatal neurodegenerative disorder infects the cervid family that includes deer, elk, moose and, in higher latitudes, reindeer. There is no vaccine or treatment.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 20 points 11 hours ago

chronic wasting disease (CWD) sounds way the f worst than zombie deer. Unless the disease is transmitted through ... nope its not bites.

Prions have demonstrated an ability to remain activated in soils for many years, infecting animals that come in contact with contaminated areas where they have been shed via urination, defecation, saliva and decomposition when an animal dies.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

Thoughts and prayers to the conservative deer hunters.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

The most recent research I heard was that human transmission was highly unlikely. It was kind of a big deal and happy news. The experiment involved high prion concentrations and human cells with a long exposure.

A few years ago, there was successful primate transfer, IIRC.

This is something I watch pretty closely.

Best controls are natural predators or heavy hunting to reduce population density.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 110 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Prions are one of the scariest things on this planet.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They’re downright awful. They can survive much higher temperatures than most other pathogens which means cooking often fails to destroy them.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Yeah it's like 800+ degrees to "kill" it. As prions aren't alive, they can't really be killed, just destroyed. And they last for years in the natural environment.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3160281/

Several reports have shown that prions can persist in soil for several years.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And get into the plants growing from that ground, infecting animals who eat them. Prion diseases are seriously scary, and I wish we were putting more effort into finding a cure.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

How do you cure a protein in a stable shape?

That’s all a prion is, it’s just a misshapen but stable protein that causes other proteins to fold into that stable shape too.

You can’t vaccinate against a shape.

We can’t scan every protein in a body and selectively destroy the ones that shaped wrong.

The only thing to do is to destroy prions whenever they are found and with extreme prejudice. But, that’s expensive so it won’t get done.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for the links. I already knew about prions, but I'd never seen the Med Twins before. A channel where an attractive young man talks about medical science in a foreign accent? You just found my catnip.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I didn't even know it was my catnip until I found it, and I typically tend more toward the Cleo Abrams and Up and Atom types. But gosh, Manuel's dark, kind eyes, compassionate and informed tone, and natural bedside manner really took some of the edge off the horror of prion diseases. Like, if he were the one who had to break the news to me that I had CJD and only had one torturous year remaining, it'd be slightly more palatable.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fr. CWD is a major reason I avoid venison. It hasn't made the jump yet, but damn if I'm going to be the 1st.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 25 points 23 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease

Since 2014, however, the CFIA has allowed animals from CWD-infected farms to enter the food chain because there is "no national requirement to have animals tested for the disease". From one CWD-infected herd in Alberta, 131 elk were sold for human consumption.[19]

Hmm.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 6 points 20 hours ago

Hunters have been diagnosed with the human equivalent shortly after eating infected venison. There's no proven causal link, but it seems like quite a coincidence.

[–] theLaLiLuLeLol@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure they have kits you can use to send for testing for it if you hunt

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Zombie Deer Disease makes me a lot more concerned about it than Chronic Wasting Disease.

Pretty much the only people that know about CWD around here are deer hunters because of license requirements.

Zombie Deer Disease makes it a billion times scarier and easier to remember

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I want to buy everything from this but also get the impression that my financial information would immediately suffer identity theft.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

Please email the business clown.

https://clowncore.computer/contact

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“It trivialises what we’re facing,” says epidemiologist Michael Osterholm.

Oh, OK. So it's worse than "zombie deer disease". Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 23 hours ago

Vampire zombie deer disease?! 😱

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So .. will the current administration allocate funds to research and find solutions, or just keep firing federal employees on the front line and blame immigrants?

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TisI@reddthat.com 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Serious question: what happens to education now? I mean will there be a regulating body or what happens exactly?

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If he pulls this off, I assume they're going to pursue this bonkers idea of private or voucher schools. They want to control the narrative in classes.

An educated voter is a dangerous voter.

[–] TisI@reddthat.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Look up Charter Schools. It's fucked.

[–] TisI@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Oh, I've seen Abbott Elementary. I know how bad it is.

[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Section. 2. (a) From the link above says that responsibilities of the DoE will be transferred to the states in a way that maintains the services Americans rely on.

I'm doubtful that they are going to do it in an organized fashion though.

[–] TisI@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Thanks, sorry didn't open the link, should've done it before asking.

And yeah if the states handle this I can imagine the chaos caused by the disparity. This is a really interesting time to be alive.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Studies show that having healthy wild carnivores on a landscape can help weed out sick CWD-carrying elk and deer, but states in the northern Rockies have adopted policies aimed at dramatically reducing wolves, bears and mountain lions.

There's a reason that carnivores and herbivores live in close proximity. Those humans who fail to recognize that will likely succumb to the first human cases of CWD.

On a side note I used to work on a couple of golf courses in northwestern Ontario. We had an infected moose show up early one fall and had to shut the course down because he just kept attacking trees all over the course. Didn't eat or drink, just fucked around with trees. Scared the shit out of us.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Poor thing’s fried brain probably thought the trees were other moose or something

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Maybe. It was shortly before the rut started so that would make sense.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's a byproduct of them living in proximity, not a reason for it.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Except humans prevented it by removing predators. That's a reason for them to return to living in proximity. There should be predators.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

A reason to return them, sure, but that's not what the comment says.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Seems like that's what it was infering, given the quote above it. Like, "There's a reason they live in proximity" meaning "we shouldn't interfere with that"

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 14 points 22 hours ago

Scientist: "Don't call it zombie deer disease"

Scumbag Steve Reporter: puts it right in the damn headline.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Lmao, in the article it mentions issues about global trade, food supplies and shit lol, however if this shit gets to human-spreading, that's game over.

[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

We'll get to it right after bird flu and mpox, right guys?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

I've been training for this for years. All those hours in L4D2 are finally gonna pay off.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bellingdog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Zombie Deer Disease: It's Catching On!

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know why this reminds me of World War Z.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Oh come on! That's because of "zombie" in title and you know it.