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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 185 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So we need to be careful with upper- and lowercase. Meanwhile the docs: > settiings

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, the settiings are different than the settings. You also need to be careful with those.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 33 points 2 days ago

had to use a different spelliings at backend and frontend, otherwise it wouldn't work.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

no, settings = settings but settings != Settings, as we all know.

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They specifically said "this is not a typo"!!!

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you all complained when in C we used 1 and 0...

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Akcshually we use 0 and "not equal 0", since "not 0" would be 0xFF..FF, and (at least gcc) gives back a 1 for a true expression. No idea about the spec, probably undefined...

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Damn you for correcting me correctly! :D

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 83 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Could be worse. At least it's documented

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

var true = false;

var false = true;

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Is the backend Python and the frontend JavaScript? Because then that would happen and just be normal, because Boolean true is True in python.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 135 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Probably, but if you're interpreting user inputs as raw code, you've got much much worse problems going on, lol.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[...]&register=import os; os.system("sudo rm -rf /"); return True

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago

Hey, that's my username too. Or it was going to be, while the site was still up.

What a coincidence!

I guess I'll wait for the site to come back, and see if it's still available...

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the settiings file... It's probably supposed to only be written by the system admin.

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

A good place to put persistent malware. That's why when using docker images always mount as ro if at all possible.

[–] ashley@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

It’s you can modify the settings file you sure as hell can put the malware anywhere you want

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given the warning about capitalization, the best possible case is that they're using ast.literal_eval() rather than throwing untrusted input into eval().

Err, I guess they might be comparing strings to 'True' and are choosing to be really strict about capitalization for some reason.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Maybe .to_lower() is really expensive in their environment, lol.

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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I curse the sadist who decided True should be uppercase in Python

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Can't they just convert a "true" input to backend to uppercase

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 days ago

Yep they should use a config file format like JSON or TOML or YAML or what have you, and then decode that into python objects. Using an actual programming language for config is dumb as hell IMO. (inb4 pissed off suckless fans)

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[–] dpflug@kbin.earth 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Implying Hell is frontend.... yeah, actually, that tracks.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Baseball, huh?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Glorious. I remember some hilarious nonsense in an API where the devs I worked with hadn't known they could just use boolean in JSON and had badly implemented it through strings, but this... This is amazing!

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

At my last job we had a lot of old code, and our supposedly smartest framework people couldn't be bothered learning front end properly. So there was a mix of methods for passing values to the front end, but nobody seemed to think of just passing JSON and parsing it into a single source of truth. There was so much digging for data in hidden columns of nested HTML tables, and you never knew if booleans would be "true", "TRUE", "1", or "Y" strings.

Never mind having to unformat currency strings to check the value then format them back to strings after updating values.

I fixed this stuff when I could, but it was half baked into the custom framework.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The backend and frontend on the product I work on are like this.

As long as you remember that booleans are not strings and should always be parsed if they are, this won't be a problem.

I am yet to see a boolean.parse() implementation in the wild that is case sensitive.

[–] computergeek125@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The could be using .js and .py files directly as config files and letting the language interpreter so the heavy lifting. Just like ye olde config.php.

And yes this absolutely will allow code injection by a config admin.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The cherry on top is that they didn't even spell settings correctly.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

settiings is spelled differently on the backend

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[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What happened to the good old 1

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago

Backend: 1

Frontend: ¹

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hear me out, what about using JSON to store the configuration in the Python backend?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

You need to use as many different formats as possible, otherwise you look unprofessional

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’ve always hated case sensitivity. I know that at an ASCII level “variable” != “Variable” but is there really a reason to have a distinction between them?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago

You are thinking it's easy because you only think of e == E, but I'll let you look up collation and accents and, you know, Unicode and let you think about it.

There is nothing trivial about case sensitivity, except in trivial cases.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You stated the reason yourself. Those are different values and matching in a case-insensitive manner is more work under the hood.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] lily33@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

That makes me think, perhaps, you might be able to set it to exec("stuff") or True...

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Cap in the back, low-key up front. Got it.

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