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So-called progressive calling for 17$ minimum wage by 2030. Insane that people love this guy
In 2016 he wanted $20 by 2020. Now after years of massive inflation in a completely symbolic act that will never pass he's compromised down to $17 by 2030.
He's compromising with nothing.
Insane that people love this guy
Because life is so fucked up and bad in the usa that any meager scraps are seen as good. And the mental part? The bill won't pass. In 2030 the minimum wage will still be 7.25.
There may not be a minimum wage by 2030.
Peak political maneuver, promise progressive policies in 2030 and not have to deliver on them because your constituents will have died from preventable climate catastrophes.
Definitely more likely that we end up with indentured servitude. Thanking our actual land lords for the opportunity to work in their distribution warehouses and live in barracks behind said warehouses.
It's insulting at this point.
The "Fight for $15" movement started in 2012.
Edit - Cost of kicking the can...er "Being Pragmatic" 
This isn't even the true devaluation - just basic officially reported inflation.
The "Fight for $15" movement started in 2012
Oh you mean before 20% inflation after covid
Abandon liberalism
Abandon social democrats 
This shit is so weak 
In some ways I'm glad there's no successor to Bernie because people really need to realize there's no fixing of the system from within
Surely AOC will be Supreme Sheepdog after Bernie dies?
Perhaps. She comes off more fake to me than Bernie, but then again I'm biased
I mean, she is/was doing the rallies with him to "stop the oligarchy" or whatever, which is funny because the Dems are part of the reason we have an oligarchy. AOC is already doing sheepdog stuff and becoming Bernie's successor
She couldnt even spray eat the rich on that gala dress. "Tax the rich" oh what a display of defanged and PG radicalism.
I'm a Republican and I'm GLAD that there's NO WAY this will Pass ANYWHERE in the Republican Controlled Government! We DONT have the Tax Dollars to Do this EVEN THOUGH Elon Musk just CUT my Social Security and ELIMINATED Healthcare for my Son!
-Republicans EXCITED about Donald Trump's $100MILLION Parade!
I'm a DEMOCRAT and I voted for a $15 minimum wage but ~~lieberman~~ ~~manchin~~ ~~republicans~~ the PARLIAMENTARIAN said it couldn't happen and I didn't want to change the rules to make it happen
Being ironically liberal is still being a liberal. You can dunk on chuds without exposing your self to harmful forms of thought like this.
Be realistic, demand the impossible
4 days 20 hour work weeks, 69$/hr
Is this the radical left?
math is woke
who killed it last time
Pathetic. 
From: We Must Raise the Minimum Wage to a Living Wage (2023)
The MIT living wage calculator estimates a living wage as a salary that is adequate enough to support a family without luxuries. For two working adults and one child, a living hourly wage for each adult would be $18.69 in West Virginia, $17.55 in South Carolina, $21.57 in Maryland, $20.01 in Utah and $19.33 in Wisconsin. Even in my own state of Vermont, the living wage is $19.58, more than $6 above the current state minimum wage.
So how does this stack up today, even though this was only two years ago.
| State | LW (2WA, 1C) 2025 | LW (2WA, 1C) 2023 | Total Change | |
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| | West Virginia | $18.99 | $18.69 | +0.30 | South Carolina | $20.48 | $17.55 | +2.93 | Maryland | $25.11 | $21.57 | +3.54 | Utah | $22.86 | $20.01 | +2.85 | Wisconsin | $21.32 | $19.33 | +1.99 | Vermont | $26.26 | $19.58 | +6.68 (!)
Just for fun, let's see some historical information about Vermont's living wage. We'll pick an arbitrary starting year, let's say, 2016.
| Month/Year | LW (2WA, 1C) as of Oldest Archive | Change from Previous Year | |
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| | DEC/2016 | $13.15 | ?? | | OCT/2017 | $13.79 | +0.64 | | APR/2018 | $13.93 | +0.14 | | NA/2019 | N/A | N/A | | OCT/2020 | $14.75 | +0.82 | | DEC/2021 | $17.34 | +2.59 | | NOV/2022 | $19.71 | +2.37 | | NOV/2023 | $19.58 | -0.13 | | DEC/2024 | $23.38 | +3.80 | | APR/2025 | $26.26 | +2.88 |
The Federal Minimum Wage has seen in increase of $0.09/hour on average from 1938 to 2009 when it was last changed.
Vermont's "Living Wage" calculation from 2016 to 2025 has seen an average increase of $1.31/hour.
This change to $17/hour in 2030 represents a $0.40/hour average increase since 2009.
The Poverty Wage for 2 Adults 1 Child in Vermont was $5.00/hour in 2016 and is currently $6.41, seeing an average increase of $0.15/hour per year. If that rate of change keeps up, the Poverty Wage could be as much as $7.23/hour by 2030.
All this to say, obviously, this doesn't even come close to keeping up with a living wage for Vermont, and would likely not keep up for many states, and many would still feel as though they're treading water. If he were to simply reintroduce his bill from 2015, it would be a more radical change in the minimum wage, which would have the wage at $17 as of 2023. However, in 2017 he tried again, which was shooting for $15 by 2024... Now here we are in 2025, shooting for $17 in 2030...
It's almost like the window for this change is shifting more and more to the right...
stop doing math theres a freakin cheeto in the god dang white house!!! 15/hr!!!! or do you want the cheeto to get a third term?!!
$17 an hour would roughly align, assuming inflation doesn’t go through the roof in the next five years, with the value peak of the minimum wage in 1968 when inflation adjusted.
Which sounds nice, except when you consider that productivity has vastly outpaced wages since the late 60’s. If the minimum wage was adjusted to match productivity increases, it’d be in the $23-25 an hour range today.
It's obviously not enough but it's also completely performative.
Also he knows that it's not going to pass, this is just messaging.
Now people who aren't intentionally ignorant can correctly say "see, nobody from either party gives a shit they won't even say they'll raise the minimum wage to $17 5 years from now."
There's plenty to criticize him for but I don't think him not going far enough for a bill that already has 0% to pass seems misguided. The fact that he's still doing it at all when everybody knows it's just performative bullshit and theres 0% chance it changes anybodys mind is more of a critique.
Most visionary and dedicated social democrat
I couldn’t bear watching his promo on cnn last night because I knew it’d be full of this bullshit
