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It's actually kind of tragic. Tesla would have been, no, should have been a key domestic EV maker. They should have been our global offering in a strategically important industry. But instead, they're rapidly becoming a pariah. And it's all because of one man. One terrible, terrible man.

This is a very, very important lesson that America MUST learn: just because someone is rich, that does not mean they are smart, or good, or trustworthy. Personality matters, a lot. I am certain that if Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning could go back, they would tell Mr. Musk "no thank you, we're not interested in your investment," even though they really needed the money. It wasn't worth it, it came with strings attached. Within just a few years of taking Musk's money, both men were forced out of the company, and Musk was well on his way to convincing millions of Americans that we was a super genius who singlehandedly invented the electric car.

In this country, we have not only tolerated megalomaniacal narcissists like Musk, we've celebrated them. That has to stop. Look at where it has gotten us. One of them is president now! If we don't learn from this, and start to see men like Trump and Musk as the disease that they are, we are doomed. If we don't get these men under control, they will control us.

Just seeing a Tesla reminds me of the arrogance of musk saying he "deleted" jobs. The choice of words tells you what he thinks of us.

Eff him. Never again.

"But the low sales numbers were just potential buyers delaying their purchase, because the new Model Y will release soon."

Safe to say that we finally have evidence that people weren't delaying. It's also not the car either, the car is fine and very competitive. I drive a Model 3 and I drove a couple competitor cars, therefore I know Tesla is up there with the competition. That is Volkswagen, Toyota and the large volume brands, I don't view Tesla as a luxury brand like BMW and Mercedes though.

So what else is there? I'd wager having a Nazi as CEO doesn't help sales at all. I'm in a mid class bubble in The Netherlands where many in my bubble can afford or even actively looked at purchasing a Tesla, all of them say the same thing: I do not support Nazi's and by extension try to buy as little US made products as I can. This is the same customer base that 5 years ago would definitely have bought a Tesla in a heartbeat. Tesla will continue to lose with Musk at the helm.

50k is way too expensive for a car in 2025.

BYD sells theirs for 12k.

Bring them to the US or compete you fucking nepobaby fascists.

“car company discounts car” is not a news story. “Fucking Nazi car company discounts car” sort of is.

I wouldnt drive a Tesla if they paid me to drive it.

I'm constantly floored that institutional investors are keeping the TSLA stock price from cratering. They dont think of the pressures on the brand like we do. I think they are pricing in future patronage by trump.

I'm not sure why anyone expected a new facelift would improve sales. It's clear the overall decline is associated with Musk going full mask-off fascist, given this, driving around in a car that looks unlike any previous Model Y just makes it completely obvious that you knew this and decided to buy one anyway. If they want to bolster sales, maybe they should have kept producing the pre-facelifted versions for a while.

Full disclosure, I used to own a Model 3. I had it for 5 years and was generally very happy with it - it was a great daily driver, cost very little to run and maintain, and (aside from a few issues later in my ownership, which was one of the reasons I decided to sell it) in general it was very easy to live with.

There are clearly some very skilled engineers at Tesla who know how to build a great product. It is a shame their efforts are being undermined by a fascist lunatic with a narcissist complex.

The fact he dismantled all the agencies overlooking tesla safety weighs in to his overtime fascism.

Even if replaced as CEO and fully diverted from Tesla, I don't think I could trust their safety going forward.

Yeah bruh, I am in the market for an EV to replace my old Camry. Zero chance I’d ever look at Tesla. Zero.

A swastikar will park in front of my house when I get groceries on Sunday and I HATE IT. I don't want anyone thinking that's our dumpster or going to vandalize it and accidentally hit my sweet cute lil car. 🤬

I wouldn’t buy a Tesla if it cost $1. That company can shove Elon’s big Nazi dildo up their ass

$3k, $5k, $20k. What's democracy mean to you?

I say let's make him the next Juliani.

The only reason I'd be caught driving a tesla is if it had a completely true bumper sticker that said "I bought it after he blew his brains out."

Don't live in the US, but you'd probably have to pay me to be seen driving one of those. I can afford not to and dignity has a price

Wow.. it's crazy. I was just thinking about it and honestly I don't think I'd drive a Tesla if it was given to me with a bow on the roof. That's some serious brand implosion right there.

Also, I know of at least one company in my area (where a friend of mine works) who used to have a Tesla fleet for their employees and who have all been switched to Polestars now.

If you gave me a Model Y for free, I'd take it to the junkyard and have it crushed, just to make sure no one drives that shit.

The Tesla brand is dead to me. In 2018 I wanted a Tesla EV but when in came time to buy a new car (2024), I got a BMW instead. In 2018 I wanted a Tesla Powerwall but I just bought a Jackery system instead. Between the two, that's well over $100k lost to Tesla from that purchase. Countless more given that I will never buy anything Tesla ever. I won't even ride an Uber/Lyft if the driver is on a Tesla.

Offering low interest rate finance is not a “discount” lol

He thought he could be Henry Ford, but Ford was a bit less overt in his Nazism. And, it should be remembered, Ford almost destroyed the company before being forced out by his own family. There are downsides to one man being the image the public has of a company.