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I wanna listen to a particular song by an artist who has recently turned pretty nazi. As I generally use Spotify I now refuse to listen to his music in there, esp as it generates earnings. I kinda wanna pirate the music somehow…I’m not gonna as I’m not gonna down a song or two and then store it on my phone like it’s the year 2000. But short story is this me justifying piracy to myself.

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[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 101 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 13 points 10 months ago
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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 51 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Ripping off Jeff Bezos is a moral imperative.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

Ripping off most of the big streaming services is a moral imperative. They are all corrupt and evil in one form or another. Except Dropout. If you pirate Dropout content you're a dirtbag.

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[–] shadshack@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My wife refuses to let me pirate books for her. She wants to support the authors she reads, which is fair. But she decided she wanted to try the Harry Potter books, and asked me to pirate them for her to make sure JK Rowling didn't get a penny out of her.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah I pirate all the games that:

  • Require an internet connection
  • Use Denuvo
  • Require a dedicated launcher
  • Require a connected account

If you're going to make the paid experience significantly worse than the free one because you want to implement anti-consumer BS, go fuck yourself

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 10 months ago

Also rootkit anti cheat.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Honestly there's so much wonderful art out there not created by Nazis, I don't know that it's worth the energy to pirate Nazi music.

I totally understand the moral pirate argument, I just don't have time to enjoy all of the games, movies, and music from artists I support. To waste what time I have engaging with content from people I find morally repugnant is just not where I'm investing

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it can't own my media, I'm certainly not going to pay for it.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I periodically delete my Metallica collection so I can re-download it for no other reason than fuck Lars.

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[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, it's kinda down to personal perspective. In mine, absolutely a reasonable way to handle things if you love the art, but don't feel morally comfortable supporting the artist.

I recommend people pirate Enders Game, because fuck Orson Scott Card.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was a newly out queer teenager when OSC started running his mouth about gay marriage. At the same time I was a big Harry Potter fan.

Fuck Orson Scott Card, but he doesn't seem quite so bad anymore.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I view it like the "discomforting uncle versus outright hateful aunt". I still really don't want to support him, but equally, fuck her, she's out here on the fucking daily with her shit.

Plus, at this point, telling someone to pirate anything Rowling is like telling someone to breathe. You're either doing it, or okay with the outcome of your actions.

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Basically, don't invite either of them to queer Thanksgiving.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't invite either to straight Thanksgiving either. Who wants that kind of toxic shit bag hanging around? Fuck those assholes and the hateful garbage they spew.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

See, that’s the thing. I don’t listen to music by Nazis.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Honestly, after seeing billionaires buy the US gov and then learning that Spotify is owned by a billionaire and artists are terribly compensated, I have been planning to once again fly the pirate flag. I want to pay the artists, but fuck the current options unless there is a different way idk about.

[–] croaker@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago

Bandcamp is decent. If you wait for Bandcamp Fridays, all of your money goes to the artist.

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

A system that allowed one to pirate corporate American made or distributed content while being able to give back directly to creators would be nice.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You have commitment issues with subscriptions.

I despise rent seeking behaviour.

we are not the same.

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[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You should download it to a personal media server and stream it to your phone if you want to enjoy piracy the modern way.

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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

Pirating Andor bc Disney+ is on the BDS list. One of the best shows I've ever seen but I'd sooner drop it than violate the boycott, even if money was no object. As things stand, piracy is the only ethical way to watch it.

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Yup, if you use Denuvo for your games, you can fuck right off

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Personally I won't even download it, I even deleted music ive had for years because the artist went maga. And let my daughter use the CD in some arts and crafts, because I can't listen to it anymore.

That said, yeah, I'd prefer to download over buying if I didnt want the company or artist to get the money for it.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Downloading and listening can still indicate an indirect form of support. Up to the individual, but I lean towards this guy being as canceled as possible, recommend rerouting any efforts to listen to this towards searching for some new exciting music.

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 10 months ago

I never needed any moralistic reason to pirate.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes I do this all the time for games

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 11 points 10 months ago

They tell us we don't own the game, only a license to play the game that they can arbitrarily revoke.

If you are going to hold my right to play something I paid for hostage, you can bet I am going to reclaim what I lost if that access is taken away from me (this does not apply to you selfish assholes that hack games to cheat then get banned).

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Pirate away but... i would simply still not listen to any music made by a nazi. Plenty of good songs out there NOT made by a nazi.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Chris Brown is a prime example. I quite like some of his collab tunes, but I absolutely refuse to give any money - a percentage or not - to that wifebeating spunktrumpet.

In fact, the fact that I'm actively screwing him out of money makes me enjoy the song more.

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[–] detun3d@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

I'd make backups of my purchases and share them with love for preservation and promotion of their authors hard work. "Piracy" was already shown to increase sales, not reduce them. If you really want to do something against an artist you no longer align with, dont consume their products. Don't purchase, don't download and don't share their stuff. Just look around for other artists you do align with, get hooked to their art and support them instead.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My piracy is probably equal parts sticking it to greedy corpos and me just not wanting to pay when I can get it for free.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If he has turned Nazi then I probably wouldn’t bother to listen to them anymore.

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You don't have to justify it, really, but it does feel satisfying when you do.

Which song of his out of curiosity? Just use Soulseek. (nicotine+ on desktop or Seeker on Android)

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Yeah. I refuse to give cuts to amazon, spotify, netflix etc.

If I pirate something from a not super rich artist and I really enjoy it. I’ll send them an email and propose to transfer them some money to support them. I don’t want spotify or amazon or google taking a cut.

[–] crewman_princess 6 points 10 months ago

I mean free is nice but I seed because fuck the system and upload stuff because it's suppose to be available to all.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 5 points 10 months ago

Nah I'm just poor

If I had a better situation though, I would pirate for moral reasons

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I am the High Priest of Kopimism. Download from where you want, and go in peace my child.

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