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Couldn’t have been worse than the cringefest speech Hank Green gave that’s for sure
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, <-- you are here
then you win.
Would they ban the person if it was a pro Israel speech?
If no, then the school admins can fuck right off
it’s not “pro palestine”, it’s not “anti israel”,
it’s anti genocide of palestinians by israelis…
they try to keep framing it as that, as some
nationalist thing….
No, no I am certainly anti-Israel as well; I now fully believe the country should be gone away with like was done in Africa whenever they won their independence back.
well that’s just completely divorced from reality
I could 100% respect a university being no politics etc whatsoever in speeches, but 5 bucks says double standard.
"No politics whatsoever" supports the status quo and is therefore political and a double standard.
Lemimygrad level of brain dead argument.
People rarely talk about politics to praise how well everything is going right now. Not being allowed to talk about politics means not being allowed to talk about changing things. If this was the rule everywhere, nothing could ever be changed (democratically).
Do you have any actual counterargument?
Wow that's pathetic, so theres no distinction left between MIT and that Bible belt shit hole university that didn't let a student graduate after she came out as gay
Too late. Megha Vemuri already exposed MIT and is a star with her Andor-level speech.
Strisand effect for sure!
For this?
Self censoring is not the answer... Come on MIT, you know better.
Well, now that I say that, MIT has a not perfect track record when it comes to legal matters and policy decisions. I think of Aaron Swartz for instance...
Whenever I try to believe things aren't bad and that I am delusional for learning how to gun, stuff like this happens. My hopes for a peaceful and boring future are dying.
"You showed the world that MIT wants a free Palestine".
“You called for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, and you stood in solidarity with the pro-Palestine activists on campus. You faced threats, intimidation, and suppression coming from all directions, especially your own university officials, but you prevailed because the MIT community that I know would never tolerate a genocide."
“Right now, while we prepare to graduate and move forward with our lives, there are no universities left in Gaza..We are watching Israel try to wipe Palestine off the face of the earth, and it is a shame that MIT is a part of it.”
“This means that Israel’s assault on the Palestinian people is not only aided and abetted by our country, but our school. As scientists, engineers, academics, and leaders, we have a commitment to support life, support aid efforts, and call for an arms embargo, and keep demanding, now as alumni, that MIT cuts the ties,"
"We encourage students inquiry and critical thinking" "no not like that!"
Calling other people (all the more, a nation as a whole) names - is not critical thinking.
Presenting biased rhethorics (all the more, not in a neutral manner, but emotionally loaded claims) and ommitting any contradicting points - has nothing to do with critical thinking.
Opinions vs facts. One-sided accusing vs rational thinking. 💁
Yeah no. Calling Nazis Nazi is a perfectly rational take. One does not to condemn an active genocide "in a neutral manner," neither do Nazis deserve neutrality.
Fucking even MIT gone mega what fhe fuck.
Desperate to prove their fascist bona fides in the hopes of retaining funding. It will come back to bite them. There's no winning way to play this game but there's and honorable and a dishonorable way.
Is Harvard the only big boy that stepped up? There has to be more, right?
MIT is deep in bed with the MIC. Their administration is not friendly towards Arabs unless those Arabs have a line of credit with Boeing or Raytheon.
Most big colleges have helped evict and deport people on studen visas. They cooperate and are complicit.
I'm betting it wouldn't be difficult to find links between MITs research and development labs and weapons and technologies companies involved in Gaza.
Societies are sometimes like big interconnected machines, large parts become complicit in denial, repression, and destruction.
Edit: yep, as expected:
Since at least 2015, MIT laboratories have received millions of dollars from the Israeli Ministry of Defense for projects to develop algorithms that help drone swarms to better pursue escaping targets; to improve underwater surveillance technology; and support military aircraft evade missiles. Two of these sponsorships were renewed since October 7th, 2023, while one came up for renewal in December 2024. Second, MIT maintains institutional collaborations through the ILP, LGO, CSAIL, and MIT Energy Initiative programs with companies that sell vast amounts of weapons to Israel. These include Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest military contractor, as well as Maersk, Lockheed Martin, and Caterpillar. These collaborations grant genocide profiteers privileged access to MIT talent and expertise.
P.S That drone swarm technology is part of why 83% of American doctors who have provided care in Gaza, have reported treating children for being shot in the head. Source: NPR's The American Life.
"War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
...
War like any other racket, pays high dividends to the very few. The cost of operations is always transferred to the people who do not profit."
General Smedley Butler - War is a Racket (1935)
It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
I'd argue that health insurance also qualifies.
Yeah pity he didn't have any advice on stopping it.
MIT? !!! WHAT THE FUCK?
I'm sure a lot of questions would be answered by checking the universities donations.
Research needs money for happening. You need to pay researchers, structures, various staff. Even more so a fancy structure as MIT
Israel (and American Zionists) have the power to cancel a sizeable amount of research contracts with MIT. (AIPAC shows how well organised they are, originally for defence from antisemitism, now for defence from… Palestine? I guess? 🤷♂️ )
Then for MIT (that is a corporation like another) comes to damage control. On one hand PR, on the other money.
MIT took the money, Stanford (in the case of DEI) took the PR.
I am still 100% sure neither of the two can give a damn of Palestinians, Israel or DEI. It’s just MBA stuff 🤷♂️
(I have my opinions on the situation in Palestine but I don’t want this post to be about that)
DARPA money is a hell of a drug?
I have no idea if this is a real thing or not.
Kinda brilliant on the class president's part - still give the speech and get the media coverage for it, but do it before commencement so they're less likely to steal your diploma as a result.
Massachusetts Institute of Terror