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The Great Migration Has Begun Again! (media.piefed.social)

submitted 4 days ago by Sunshine@piefed.social to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 days ago (3 children)

How so? Is there drama I have missed or something?

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not enough mods to keep it going

[–] oce@jlai.lu 56 points 4 days ago

Admins more precisely.

The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.

We know this sucks. We’re genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45831225

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Oh shit I had not seen this thank you

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Fuck.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lemmy is permantly shutting down due to admin burnout.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lemmy in general or lemm.ee?

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago

Lemm.ee

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Come on over, the water is fine!

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Splashes you!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was made aware of Piefed from recent posts about this and went ahead and made an account in case I want to ditch Lemmy altogether in the future, but I'm familiar with how it works and will keep using it for now.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

is piefed not a lemmy instance?

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's a totally different software project. Written in Python as opposed to Rust (programming language used for Lemmy).

But it is also part of the fediverse with ActivityPub compatibility, so you can easily browse and subscribe to Lemmy communities and content from PieFed and vice versa.

https://piefed.social/ is the original PieFed instance.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

No, but it federates with Lemmy.

[+] net00@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The platform follows the same format as Lemmy but with extra features such as flairs, polls, private votes and combined comments.

https://join.piefed.social/features/

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

I like their software philosophy.

Use a common language
Minimize dependencies
Simplest possible architecture

I think being “uncreative” like this is a smart move for long-lasting software.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I immediately noticed the combined comments, that's an excellent feature.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

PieFed is written in Python, and so has already managed to surpass Lemmy in available features (by a lot, and new ones continue to be added practically weekly), despite Lemmy having an enormous head start. Lemmy is written in Rust and even high experienced and capable C++ developers do not know how to work with it, plus the language itself is not finished.

Tbh, there are still some things that Lemmy does better, like having a post + comment preview, and Lemmy has a really excellent search feature (though you don't even need an account to use that...). However, PieFed will continue to run laps around Lemmy for the foreseeable future, as feature requests languish for literally many years (not joking here) in Lemmy, but people are willing (and capable) to volunteer and they show up in PieFed quickly.

The best way to learn about PieFed, as you already saw, is just to go check it out, but be prepared to fall in love instantly, bc those features are truly amazing! 😍🤩

Edit: e.g. https://piefed.social/ .

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago

Lemmy is written in Rust and even high experienced and capable C++ developers do not know how to work with it, plus the language itself is not finished.

that's just plain false. It's easier to use Rust than C++ because most of the pitfalls are eliminated, and many tools helping to get things done are built in nd have good quality. C++ devs just have a hard time getting used to the differences. It's also questionable whether rust is unfinished. It's not like its "beta" or "pre-release", and if your point is that it's still getting new features, then consider that C++ and Python does too.

python is better for prototyping, and it can be better for tools and simpler software. but if you think Python is better for "production" generally, then look at Matrix Synapse.

that being said, I agree that Rust is more complicated than other languages, but not by a large margin. but yeah, it matters for beginner friendliness, and I would never recommend Rust for someone who is just a beginner in programming; but neither would I recommend C or C++ for them.
though to be honest, I would be happier if the defacto beginner friendly language would be something with stricter types.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was writing a comment about how miss the "Top" sorting options. Then I check and there they are. I'm sure they weren't there not that long ago, which kinda proves your point 😅

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

For a brief time they had been moved to a sub menu, but it was annoying and so they were shuffled around again.

PieFed.social is the "bleeding edge" where all the newest experimental stuff is tried out, but the other instances are more stable e.g. https://feddit.online/ .

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 days ago

Ah that makes sense. I'm not using it enough to notice the subtle changes over time.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Very cool, thank you!

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Piefed has just recently started opening the api access on Piefed.social and Feddit.online!

https://piefed.social/post/817564

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

Well, that may be where I end up, it looks nice.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

I Recognise you from .ee!

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Which one is the closest to lemm.ee? I liked how lemm.ee had a no pornography rule and federated with everyone.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago

!meta@lemm.ee has a few posts with alternatives

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

That doesn't make sense I f Thu had a no pornography rule how could they federate with instances that had porn.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

RIP.