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The Great Migration Has Begun Again! (media.piefed.social)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Sunshine@piefed.social to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How so? Is there drama I have missed or something?

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not enough mods to keep it going

[–] oce@jlai.lu 56 points 3 weeks ago

Admins more precisely.

The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.

We know this sucks. We’re genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45831225

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Oh shit I had not seen this thank you

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lemmy is permantly shutting down due to admin burnout.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lemmy in general or lemm.ee?

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

Lemm.ee

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Come on over, the water is fine!

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Splashes you!

[+] net00@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The platform follows the same format as Lemmy but with extra features such as flairs, polls, private votes and combined comments.

https://join.piefed.social/features/

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

I like their software philosophy.

Use a common language
Minimize dependencies
Simplest possible architecture

I think being “uncreative” like this is a smart move for long-lasting software.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I immediately noticed the combined comments, that's an excellent feature.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

PieFed is written in Python, and so has already managed to surpass Lemmy in available features (by a lot, and new ones continue to be added practically weekly), despite Lemmy having an enormous head start. Lemmy is written in Rust and even high experienced and capable C++ developers do not know how to work with it, plus the language itself is not finished.

Tbh, there are still some things that Lemmy does better, like having a post + comment preview, and Lemmy has a really excellent search feature (though you don't even need an account to use that...). However, PieFed will continue to run laps around Lemmy for the foreseeable future, as feature requests languish for literally many years (not joking here) in Lemmy, but people are willing (and capable) to volunteer and they show up in PieFed quickly.

The best way to learn about PieFed, as you already saw, is just to go check it out, but be prepared to fall in love instantly, bc those features are truly amazing! 😍🤩

Edit: e.g. https://piefed.social/ .

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy is written in Rust and even high experienced and capable C++ developers do not know how to work with it, plus the language itself is not finished.

that's just plain false. It's easier to use Rust than C++ because most of the pitfalls are eliminated, and many tools helping to get things done are built in nd have good quality. C++ devs just have a hard time getting used to the differences. It's also questionable whether rust is unfinished. It's not like its "beta" or "pre-release", and if your point is that it's still getting new features, then consider that C++ and Python does too.

python is better for prototyping, and it can be better for tools and simpler software. but if you think Python is better for "production" generally, then look at Matrix Synapse.

that being said, I agree that Rust is more complicated than other languages, but not by a large margin. but yeah, it matters for beginner friendliness, and I would never recommend Rust for someone who is just a beginner in programming; but neither would I recommend C or C++ for them.
though to be honest, I would be happier if the defacto beginner friendly language would be something with stricter types.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

While I come from more of the Rust sort of side of things, and I agree with you that I'd rather have widely-used languages having static typing (though I've written more Python than Rust), it's also true that different languages have different degrees of uptake in different areas.

As things stand, Piefed, Lemmy, and Mbin all have an integrated Web frontend and backend, with third party client support via API. That is, they work kind of like Reddit does, not Usenet or IRC servers, where the backends and the frontends are entirely different projects.

I'm confident that Python has vastly more uptake for frontend Web development than Rust does. That means that it's going to be way easier to find contributors who understand how to build a Web UI who know Python than who know Rust.

If there were a split from this approach

that is, if the UI became decoupled from the backends, and users just used Aphrodite or mlym or whatever, and the backend wound up looking something like Usenet server software,

then I think that there might be a stronger argument for doing the backend in something like Rust, depending upon how it was structured.

But I think that Rust probably creates a high bar for attracting front-end contributors who are knowledgeable in building Web systems.

I'd also point out that Reddit started out in Common Lisp

Paul Graham, who was involved with its early days, is a huge fan of Common Lisp

but eventually was rewritten in Python.

EDIT: There's also Sublinks, in Java, but it doesn't look like it's getting a lot of activity.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was writing a comment about how miss the "Top" sorting options. Then I check and there they are. I'm sure they weren't there not that long ago, which kinda proves your point 😅

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

For a brief time they had been moved to a sub menu, but it was annoying and so they were shuffled around again.

PieFed.social is the "bleeding edge" where all the newest experimental stuff is tried out, but the other instances are more stable e.g. https://feddit.online/ .

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ah that makes sense. I'm not using it enough to notice the subtle changes over time.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very cool, thank you!

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Piefed has just recently started opening the api access on Piefed.social and Feddit.online!

https://piefed.social/post/817564

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that may be where I end up, it looks nice.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

I Recognise you from .ee!

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Which one is the closest to lemm.ee? I liked how lemm.ee had a no pornography rule and federated with everyone.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

!meta@lemm.ee has a few posts with alternatives

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't make sense I f Thu had a no pornography rule how could they federate with instances that had porn.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You can have a "no local pornography" rule without also defederating from instances that have pornography.

The instance I'm on, lemmy.today, has an admin who disallows local pornography communities on the instance and explicitly says that he's fine with users participating in pornography communities on other instances through his instance. From its server rules:

No local pornography communities (but you are free to subscribe to them on other instances if you wish).

That makes sense if you don't have some sort of desire to block it from users on the server, but just don't want to deal with the administrative hassle that comes with it.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was made aware of Piefed from recent posts about this and went ahead and made an account in case I want to ditch Lemmy altogether in the future, but I'm familiar with how it works and will keep using it for now.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is piefed not a lemmy instance?

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's a totally different software project. Written in Python as opposed to Rust (programming language used for Lemmy).

But it is also part of the fediverse with ActivityPub compatibility, so you can easily browse and subscribe to Lemmy communities and content from PieFed and vice versa.

https://piefed.social/ is the original PieFed instance.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

No, but it federates with Lemmy.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

RIP.