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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

“Remember everyone, this is Ukraine not brown people from the Middle East”

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

um that will mean they will take ukraine in a bajillion years

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's a good time strategically for Russia to do this. It makes it harder for the US to divert more resources to the middle east. It's reserves have already been stretched. The US can't keep a proxy fight against Russia, and Iran supplied at the same time. Not to mention once it gets to that point China probably either becomes the weapons supplier for Iran, and Russia, or it joins directly. It might seem rough right now with the US and Zionist entity killing thousands, but these are the thrashings of a dying empire. Make sure you all stay safe, and just be ready in general. Shits gonna get worse before it gets better. Keep a go bag ready if your in a potential conflict zone because these things spread fast. Have a plan. Make sure your friends and family are prepared too. I want to see you all safe, and on here posting crabs when the US loses.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It really makes sense to think of Iran and Ukraine as two fronts of the same war.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 19 points 18 hours ago

Interwar period all over again with the Spanish Civil War, Chinese Civil War, and Japanese invasion of Manchuria.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 32 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This feels like all part of the big plan to weaken every strong ally who would support China in the event of a naval blockade.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 hours ago

It's more than just that. The US always had aspirations to dominate the entire world. The USSR held them at bay in many regions, and was the reason the US couldn't do so. The USSR gave many nations breatheing room to rebuild after WW2, and by the time the US managed to defeat the USSR it had lost its opportunity for global conquest. It did of course take over many regions, but it failed at complete domination. This is the wound which is now festering in American Empire. The empire cannot abide nations that do not bow to it. China yes is a big one, but it isn't the only country America wants to subjugate. It's just the most capable of defending itself. Even without China the US would still want to destroy Iran and install puppet governance.

The issue the US now faces is the rest of the world has massively narrowed the gap that existed between it and other nations post-WW2. It can fight 1 or maybe 2 of them at once, but if they all fight it at once the US will be forced back into its own hemisphere. The US is playing a very dangerous game now. If it bombs Iran it has to commit to a war there long term. It will not be fast. If Russia keeps pressure up in europe, and China in the indo-pacific, perhaps even Brazil in South America asserting itself. The US cannot contain them all at once. It would need to triage and choose it's battles.

The empire seems over extended to me. They're moving assets from the pacific INTO the mid east while their entire plan long term was supposed to be a pivot to the pacific. This is the opposite of what they had been wanting to do. It may see short term success against Iran, but long term i don't think it benefits the US much. China also recently had a summit with the central asian nations, and i would be shocked if they arent trying to use those connections to keep Iran supplied. The terrain in Iran is also very rugged and mountainous. The US might be able to bomb it, but an invasion would be mostly impossible to succeed at.

So yeah basically this is the shockwave of the USSR preventing total US global dominance after WW2. The US is struggling to get these regions fully under control, and finding itself unable to do so. It will become more violent as it gets desperate, and eventually it will be forced to consolidate its forces in the places it can control. Leaving vacuums for other regional powers to grow into. We already see this in how the US dialed down aid to Ukraine once Israel needed the weapons. Now Russia is on the verge of total victory.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 19 hours ago

There's a whole policy article from August 2021 advocating inflicting a military defeat on Russia in Ukraine to subjugate it and draw it away from China, this was openly discussed https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 42 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's 20 kilometers Michael, how far can it be? 40 feet?

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

Place your bets now: what will the West's excuses be when it loses?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

caliper sounds increase

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 45 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My money is on "we gave the Ukrainians everything they wanted but their Slavic adherence to Soviet Doctrine caused them to lose"

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Extra funny because many times they engaged in NATO tactics, they ended up failing against Russian tactics.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"we're driving around in Humvees kicking in random doors just like we were trained by Superior Western Consultants, why do we keep getting blown up in ambushes?"

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

What do you mean this shit that barely worked against a dirt poor population without air support, a standing army or even basic services doesn't work against a real army and the resistance militias we keep converting to their cause?

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 38 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

somehow it is gonna be trans people's fault

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 28 points 21 hours ago

im-doing-my-part I'm doing my part!

[–] spudnik@hexbear.net 15 points 20 hours ago

It's definitely because of woke!

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 21 hours ago

My bet they're gonna blame Iran.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Claim they actually won because Russia didn’t nuke Kiev

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago

And it took more than three days, a claim Russia didn't make (but one US General Milley did, along with apparently Lukashenko (who for the libs in the audience, is not Russian))

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago

For the democrats: Trump

For the republicans: They wanted Russia to win

[–] RuthBaderGonesburg@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Throwing Zelenskyy under the bus would be the easy move. "Turns out he was a notorious embezzler and kept pushing for more war! Who knew?!"

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 27 points 21 hours ago

US leaving AFU on "Read"

[–] abc@hexbear.net 16 points 20 hours ago

oh no anyways

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

if it's square kilometers, then in 4 years and 3 months they will occupy all of Kharkiv oblast. who is going to crumble first, Vovchansk or Iran?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think Iran will crumble.

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's more likely the US will crumble if it decides to join this war.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

It could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[–] I_Voxgaard@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago

Cheers, comrade

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 12 points 22 hours ago