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[–] wischi@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago

Interesting that Americans always argue that they need their guns in case the government goes rouge. So many comments say that they will get shot, because they absolutely look like kidnappers, yet nothing happens. Looks like you keep those guns around just for a higher suicide rate and school shootings.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 353 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Wait, that's how they're actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don't get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 253 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think they look more like a bunch of thugs than normal people.

[–] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 86 points 1 week ago

It’s the masks. Their body language is softer than my hangover shit.

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[–] ssroxnak@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

They're also going after the population that are probably the unlikeliest to own firearms. That being said, if you're brown and not carrying a firearm and your "papers", you should probably change your habits. Fuck me, it's disgusting that this is the case in America.

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[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 278 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They wear masks for the same reason the Klansmen wore masks.

[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 79 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aren't they klansmen or their sons?

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m sure more than a few of them have that in their history, along with numerous times starting a sentence with, “I’m not racist but…”

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[–] ssroxnak@lemmy.world 268 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don't identify themselves.

We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.

Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 192 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked vehicles and wearing masks? Those are obviously kidnappers, Your Honor.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"That's why my client acted reasonably and dare I say heroically, when they saw these masked men dragging the witness into an unmarked vehicle, drew their legally carried sidearm, and engaged these individuals until they were no longer a threat."

Why hasn't this happened yet?!

This country should never be safe for predators who want to throw people into vans.

[–] Sergio@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because migrants are generally peaceful, non-violent people who just want to work hard and improve their lives.

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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 169 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A handy guide to America:

Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of infection during a global pandemic? It's an excuse to hide your face, you literally cannot breate through it, and it's a symbol of leftist fascism.

Wearing a mask literally to hide your identity so you can physically accost and abduct anyone under the pretense of 'immigration authority' with zero need for due process so there are no repercussions when you are wrong? That's protecting your country.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 151 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Looks like a group of shady men wearing masks intended to hide their faces around an unmarked van threatening civilians with weapons to me. Call the police, maybe hyperbolize it a bit. Make them either abandon their spot or waste their time justifying their existence to the police instead of whatever bullshit they're there to do.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Looks like a bunch of fascists committing state-sanctioned domestic terrorism.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (4 children)

that’s actually a mob of criminals. you see these dbags you need to call 911, especially if you are not an immigrant.

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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 123 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe

Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never let the assailant take you to the secondary location.

Urban self defense classes have been teaching this since the 1970s, at least.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They look like terrorists.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Well they are wearing masks and striking fear on a civilian population for a political agenda, so I think your terminology is textbook.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Given what is currently happening in the US, I cannot help but ask myself: Does the police still respond when emergency calls come in reporting that several armed and masked men are dragging people into a van and kidnapping them?

That's a genuine question, and I don't know the answer. But hey, I don't know the answer to the question of how all this can be possible in a constitutional state either.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Turns out having a constitution isn't enough. You have to actually follow and enforce it to be effective.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (9 children)

This looks like they just rounded up a bunch of proud boyz, put masks on them, gave them a van and told them to go harass immigrant children.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

I mean... That's pretty much what they did.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like four domestic terrorists.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (8 children)

How does anyone know they're ICE? what if six guys in masks showed up and threw these guys in an unmarked van and says THEY'RE ICE?

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[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago

No reasononable person would believe these are police. Not guilty.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

*Allegedly ICE

Those could totally just be plain old kidnappers

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (5 children)

These guys look like they're about to rob a bank.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Anybody else dressed like that in the street would be arrested.

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[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure those are just traffickers.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Omg, they can't breathe, they are inhaling their own CO2 & toxic bacteria, they are probably dead already!!

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (20 children)

It's 2025. America. You see these men on the street.

If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.

If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.

If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.

If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren't wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.

If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.

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[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Photoshop some darker skin on them and post them on some conservative site and see the difference in reactions.

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