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[–] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is Iran mad at me now? Bruh this is why I don't like leaving the house. /s But seriously something has got to give with this maniac regime we have here in the U.S., and I'm afraid we are the only ones who could realistically stand up and change anything. Nobody else is coming to save us.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 58 minutes ago

We are the only ones who could realistically stand up and change anything. Nobody else is coming to save us.

This is correct.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Live by the sword, die by the sword. We let Gazan children die because of who their parents voted for. I'm not saying two wrong make a right but that doing what is right starts with us.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I admit I failed to press the button that would have solved that

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

admitting it is cool and all, but would have been super awesome if you weren't a huge pile of shit 8 months ago.

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 20 points 18 hours ago

Propaganda is when you punch someone in the face and then quote them saying "I'll kill you" instead of mentioning the face punch.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago

And with how ICE is operating infiltration has become easier than ever.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 113 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean, yeah, that's what a declaration of war usually entails.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Mmm, not really.

You can't just slaughter civilians willy nilly. Well, you can, obviously, as shown by what's going on in the world, but international laws say you shouldn't.

Iran could legally intern any Americans, but civilians wouldn't still be POW's. And should technically have rights and whatnot.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't even have the class to declare.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He also can't. Proclamations of war are made by the legislature. (Congress). If the President sends troops in a supposed emergency they can go without legislative consent for 90 days and must be recalled at that time without the legislature's approval. It's stupid, because 90 days into a conflict we have troops on the ground and an immediate evacuation only hurts us economically and global appearance some worry about. Not to mention the troops lost/injured, casualties left with those attacked and Congress not agreeing to keep them there is an admission that it was wrong, so not paying restitution would hurt international relations as well.

To me it comes to, if he orders troops on the ground, an immediate Congressional impeachment would be needed, and the Senate to remove him, or they will vote in favor of staying in the fight to "save face" and not care how many innocent lives die or are thrown into poverty, starve, are raped, wrongly imprisoned, tortured, and the damages it will cause to the mental health of a whole new generation of our soilders and people of other counties around the world.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're speaking like you have a functional government.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It used to be that non-combatants weren't considered legitimate targets. Ain't progress fun?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

i mean true honest war does not have rules like that. the reason “rules of war” exist is so corporations can keep a labor pool and capital operating with minimal effect to profit. (“Ain’t no war but class war.”)

true honest realistic “war” is carpet bombs, famine, death, and capitulation.

stop expecting “war” to involve rules, you’ll only be surprised in the end.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

tell that to all the civilians in Guantanamo and Gaza.

if the first aggressor doesn't give a fuck about rule of war, it can't complain about them

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Or Ukraine's civilians. Or the 500k--2M dead civilians during the war against Iraq. Oh, sorry, those were "collateral"...

Usually citizens are not considered fair targets. They're just targeted all the same.

Iran does not have the military capabilities to fight off Israel, let alone the USA. So they will most likely use terrorist attacks, targeting civilians, because that's the best hope they have to end the war: when the people back home get serious about ending it as they're taking losses.

Unfortunately, and as usual, the very important people who decide to keep going or stop are also the least likely to see their life at risk. And in this case, they also happen to not give a flying fuck about civilians lives.

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As if the US have ever given a fuck who they blew up...

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 150 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh good. Americans will die.

Trump will be fine.

But Americans are gonna die.

Trump is a traitor Nazi.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

More Americans died of Covid than in any war the US was involved since it became a country, yes including the Civil War. The highest death estimate for the Civil War puts it around 750 000 deaths while around 1 200 000 died due to Covid. Most Americans don't really care about the deaths of their fellow countrymen since, you know, they elected him again.

Fun Fact (I know it's not that fun): The number of people that died of Covid approaches the total number of people that died in all conflicts the US was involved from 1775 to 2019: 1 300 000 war dead versus 1 200 000 Covid dead

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they can blow up his hotels and golf courses. He'd actually care more.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 96 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The headline is somewhat misleading. Iran said US personnel are legitimate targets (meaning those employed by the US government. Not all US citizens.

Although if I were American I would not risk depending on the judgment of a random Iranian soldier.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

First sentence:

Iran announced Sunday that any American civilian or military personnel in the region are now considered legitimate targets

So yes, still not all Americans, but no, not just government employees, American civilians too.

But I suspect non-military people will be arrested, not treated as military targets to be attacked or bombed.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Based on that sentence, it even just says "in the region" so hardly "all" Americans

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

We're like Pokémon! Everyone everywhere wants to catch us. At home they really want to send people to Guantanamo. Abroad they need to exchange us for people kidnapped in el Salvador.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

🎶 Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time

Dancing in the desert, blowing up the sunshine 🎶

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR??

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

Politicians hide themselves away

They only started the war

Why should they go out to fight?

They leave that role to the poor,

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article provide zero proof of the claim in the title

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its because its israeli News and it fits their propaganda.

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