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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

I bet a LLM wrote that headline.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

welcome to the orphan crushing machine that first crashes the mother. you also gotto love the slight "polices are heroes and caring human beings" twist.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Don't be ridiculous. The machine that crushes the mother is not the orphan crushing machine - that's the orphan making machine. Different part of the same pipeline. Don't confuse them - they are maintained by different companies.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Orphan Co. Limited ?

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So i looked into it. Such deaths are not uncommon in the US. The issues that can cause maternal deaths can show up 24-48 hours after birth and the mother, having just gone through major traumatic body altering experience, may not trust her feelings that there is something wrong, and statistics show that neither do doctors. But in the US early release is the standard because maternity beds up time is money.

But i also learned of the Newborn and Mothers health protection act of 1996, that guarantee a stay of 48 hours vaginal or 96 hours c-section birth. And this must be covered by all medical insurance.

But x2. If the doctor agrees to an early dismissal, and the wife said anything but a full unquestionable rejection of the premise of early dismissal then they may be ejected. Which is a lot to ask of a new mother. At which point an advocate is the only way to reverse it. Husbands or family better be aware and on their shit i guess.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Note the story does not indicate the specific age of the baby or even that the cause of death is related to having given birth or something like post partum depression, which is also a potentially worrying cause over a longer term. It could have been an utterly accidental death or unrelated health condition.

You raise a valid set of concerns, but no indication whether it is pertinent to this story.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The article in question.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/phoenix-baby-left-alone-after-mother-dies-rescued/

It does say the mother recently gave birth. One can reasonably assume that the child in question is who she gave birth to. No matter what, the title and the article are terribly written.

Edit: fixed link

Edit 2: here is a slightly more responsibly written article and title.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/phoenix-baby-saved-mother-death-b2779209.html

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Right, i don’t have that information, but when looking this up i came across a comment that said deaths soon after birth are not uncommon and that unnerved me so i went down a rabbit hole. Not saying that this is directly related… i just had to tell someone my findings

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Seems reasonable enough, and a good reason to encourage particular focus after birth in your neighborhood support circle.

Which hopefully you've fostered in general, but I certainly can't claim to have done so well on that front myself..

[–] catty@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

We all have our own models of how the world works. This frames how we understand the meanings of content.

The phrase "baby left alone" in no way implies it's the mother's fault. It is correct, a baby was left alone, in as much the fault of the 'system'.

This meme feels more like something to instil anger and hatred than anything actually useful.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Left is the word that indicates that someone actively left this baby alone. They could have said baby found alone. Baby discovered. Heck, baby alone for days after mother's death. Baby left absolutely implies it is the doing, or fault, of the person who left the baby. The person who is responsible. Now who will society assume is responsible for a new baby, but the mother?

Even you. You said, hey we could just as easily blame this on society as on the mother! No mention of the absent father.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Are fathers (absent or otherwise) not a part of society?

The "I don't need no man" crowd would like them not to be.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

It's seems like you're saying society and a child's parents are equally responsible for the child. A society is, of course, responsible to it's individuals, but are you actually saying you think it is a common belief that society and a child's parents are equally responsible for that child?

[–] saimen@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago

What meme are your talking about? This is just a screenshot of a social media post.

Words do have meaning. Of course you can just imaging your own meanings but then you will be misunderstood.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 14 points 14 hours ago

in fact it even says “after mother dies”

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

There are so many things to be genuinely furious about.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago

Since when are memes useful? Theyre mainly propaganda tools but when theyre useless they're called memes.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

It's not even certain it's reasonably the fault of the 'system'. There's no details about how or why the mother died or why she happened to be alone with the baby for a few days. A mother taking care of a baby for a few days by herself is not a crazy circumstance without further context. At one point my wife had work and I had to take our toddler on a trip for a couple of days and no one could possibly have accused that situation of me being alone with our toddler due to some failure of the system, even if something had tragically killed me along the way.

There are so many stories about the system failing a baby or a mother, we don't need to extrapolate this specific incomplete story with such details until the actual details are available, which may or may not be consistent with the tragic failures of the system.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Ah... bait.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 28 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I thought you could say "I was left alone after my friend passed" or something. It doesn't mean my friend left me purposefully but rather I was just alone after he died

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago (15 children)

It's about the framing. The focus is on the baby being "left alone," with passive language implying that somebody did that to them. Meanwhile, the mother's death is treated as an afterthought, only relevant as a circumstance in the baby's story.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 10 hours ago

Well yeah, it's not newsworthy that a random person died. The newsworthy part is 'holy shit this baby lived somehow.'

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. Because people who read local news stories tend to care more about infants than adults.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Because old people who ~~read local news stories~~ are mindlessly anti-choice tend to care more about infants than adults.

FTFY

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This was a living infant that in all likelihood the mother wanted to live. Celebrating its survival seems hardy "anti-choice", even as the mother met a tragic end.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

These mouth breathers call themselves "Pro-life" and all they care about is getting babies born. They couldn't give a crap if the kid is living well after that. And they certainly don't give a flying fuck about the mother. Otherwise they wouldn't elect assholes who promise to cut low income benefits and free school lunch programs. They believe that being against abortion will get them into heaven and that's is all they really care about. That and growing their insane death cult membership rolls.

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[–] frazw@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (6 children)

"Baby rescued from apartment after single-mother tragically died days earlier"

Didn't think it was that difficult

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's not, but then the headline wouldn't subconsciously bias you towards rage clicking.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think the headline would make you rage click, it's pretty neutral. The over the top reaction to said headline however...

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It's subtle, but it's absolutely designed to induce feelings of negative emotions to evoke a click. If you'd like to look into this field of study, search up "shadow patterns" or " dark patterns" as that's the modern design language meant for working with data on mass scale in order to drive engagement. (To the down voter, the fact you can't see it is both sad and the point of the design. Unfortunate because it's true. I've sat in these design meetings with software teams and marketing.)

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Infant only suspect in mother's mysterious death

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[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are they gonna charge her ghost?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

Depends was she black?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 48 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I... don't know, man, the info that she died is right there in the headline. I'm struggling to compose that sentence in English without using the word "left".

"Police rescue baby alone for days after mother dies" doesn't sound like English. "Police rescue baby alone after mother dies" sounds like the news is the baby doesn't have any other family and also sounds weird.

If you take motherhood out of it altogether it becomes more obvious, I suppose. "The man was left alone on a deserted island after the rest of the plane's crew died in the crash" is a perfectly valid way to frame that.

Blame English for using adjectives weird sometimes.

[–] Tamo240@programming.dev 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

'Police rescue baby found alone after mother dies days earlier'

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