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[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does this look like the face of a man who is hiding something?

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago

When your boss definitely isn't on a list that definitely doesn't exist

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Patel and Bongino have since said Epstein committed suicide. But it has become an article of faith online, especially on the right, that Epstein's crimes also implicated government officials, celebrities and business leaders — and that someone killed him to conceal them.

Oh fuck right off.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I can tell I scared my friends real bad one time when I casually mentioned this stuff because they think this is all chud conspiracy theories and they thought I had become a "bad" guy

[–] ephemeral@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I 100% believe that pizzagate/QAnon was a psyop to make the public forever associate all discussion of wealthy pedophile rings with whacked-out conspiracy theories. now talking about objectively true, well-documented facts makes you sound crazy to the average low-information liberal

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

That's my take on it as well, it's just all too convenient

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

That’s wild because I thought everyone agreed that he didn’t commit suicide when it happened. People have such short memories.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Is so frustrating that the collective lib memory will ignore these things and vilify you for remembering.

[–] ephemeral@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

the right wing literally worships Epstein's former best friend, the government official, celebrity, and business leader Donald J. Trump, as a god

it's objectively a fact that Epstein was connected to wealthy, powerful, famous people. the FBI itself has come out and said this - before it was taken over by one of those people. by suggesting that discussing this fact is akin to right-wing conspiracies like QAnon, axios is literally covering for pedophiles. is their CEO in the black book too?

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

All I'm saying is that predators are benefiting from labeling this narrative as a right-wing conspiracy like QAnon.

Believing Epstein didn't kill himself is hardly a partisan issue and it's skeevy as fuck to claim otherwise.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the FBI had Epstein on their bankroll so they could blackmail people into becoming informants. The problem law enforcement runs into is eventually they have to cut their informants loose and informants have to be paid. Don't have to do that if you have guaranteed life in prison to hang over someone's head. Now you can use them for as long as you want.

[–] Candidate@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I've also heard CIA, although I personally think Mossad.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 50 points 2 days ago

100% got him on video, multiple angles, multiple sessions, multiple victims

we've looked into it and we found we did nothing wrong or suspicious

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

This just makes the Trump admin look even more guilty overing for Pissreal and Epstien.

He doesn't talk about hillary-contempt or billdawg any more either. So much for locking them up. JFK stuff comes out with a bunch of Pissreal mentions but a-little-trolling make your own conclusions.

Most powerful governemnt and military in the world scared to death over a tiny foriegn Voldemort country and will incriminate their own public for speaking against.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago
[–] wideopenarms@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh alright then, I wasn't sure before but I guess it's all settled now.

Can they even do proper psyops anymore? It would be so much more effective to come to this conclusion as a somewhat high profile, somewhat respectable group unassosciated with (but with free access of information to) federal agencies. Just make the CIA cutout, hype up the investigation, do some performative and maybe even highly publicized chaffing with the government and then release your totally legit findings.

E: you could even put Chomsky on the team, he's already openly defended his association with Epstein and most uninformed "lefties" still take what he says to heart.

Unless the psyop is freely flaunting the level of control they have to put a cap on the consequences of conspiracies like this, even if the public is aware.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 days ago

i have investigated myself and found no wrongdoing

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LoveWitch@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

Suicide by being an exposure risk to the owner class

[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Ghislaine Maxwell is still in prison for no particular reason, then, I suppose.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago
[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago
[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago

We've investigated ourselves and found that it only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago
[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

I couldn't watch the '"enhanced" version' because of an SSL error at the URL.

So I tried going to the hosting domain, media.justice.gov to see what's up there.

At first it also didn't work either. But now it loads a blank page titled "Adobe Flash Media Server".

Wow that sounds old. According to https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-media-server.html it last received a security update in 2011.

The html source of the page has a copyright notice from 2008 and what looks like maybe some boilerplate code suggesting you download Flash Player and links to sample SWF and f4v files. Naturally DOJ is retro computing.

According to the most recent wayback cache it should be a 301 redirect to a different URL under the domain which is a more regular looking webpage. (Epstein videos are not available on this (non-wayback) video news page. See how "Exclusive" the axios story is.)

Finally the '"enhanced" version' started to load in my browser but sadly crapped out on me without hardly playing anything at all. I guess they shouldn't have fired all their staff who run things before releasing an 11 hour video on their shitty Adobe Flash Server.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

I believe them

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

But but but Trump said he would fight the Deep State!!!1!1

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

@grok is this true?