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[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 115 points 5 months ago (7 children)

When Dubya is used as the counterexample of a dignified presidential predecessor you've probably hit the bottom of the barrel right? Right?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, his enemy wasn't terrorism, it was his friends not being obscenely wealthy enough.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And JFK's biggest enemy was himself for sticking his cock in everything that walked and the CIA (for obvious reasons)

[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago

Wait, JFK was sticking his cock in the CIA? No wonder J. Edgar dressed like a woman; he obviously just wanted to get boned by the prez!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Watching some footage from those days has me gobsmacked how regal and statesman like Dubya appears compared to Trump.

It’s … wild because he was such a joke

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You have no idea how ~~high~~ low we can ~~fly~~ sink.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh mine friend, we havent even gotten to half the shit the Romans were doing during both the Republican era or the Imperial era.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Care to provide some provocative examples?

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

"under the veil of terrorism"

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 59 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Imagine hating a city where people ride 20ft tall bikes. Imagine hating a place where you can get donuts covered in breakfast cereal and bacon, or walk through a bookshop bigger than some towns. Imagine hating a place with more bridges than you've had hot meals and shops that will sell a full size burrito for $4.

Only someone as diagonally opposite to everything good about life as Trump could hate Portland.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fascists hate it when people have nice things.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Happy people are dangerous to their regime. It's harder to control people if they have nice things.

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[–] 9limmer@piefed.zip 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Can you really get a decent $4 burrito in Portland?

[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

There is/was a place on the road to Mt hood... maybe in Sandy? That would fill you good for cheap before whatever shenanigans you've planed for the day.

I miss Oregon so much.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I live in Portland, and no place exists to my knowledge. But the Mexican food scene here is pretty decent. There is a food cart lot on Foster Road wherein there is a taco truck that sells a ginormous "Cubanita" torta for $12, and it's enough for two meals.

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[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Krono@lemmy.today 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

W Bush is responsible for 1-2 million deaths, depending on how you count the bodies.

They were killed for political reasons, they were killed for profit. They were labeled "terrorists" in order to justify mass extrajudicial killings.

We can argue which is worse: Trump or W? Trump has done more damage to institutions, W has more blood on his hands, Trump has 3.5 more years to do damage, etc. But let's not whitewash the horrific and unjustifiable crimes of the W administration.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Trump has almost as many deaths on his hands just from his cuts to USAID. He also has that many deaths if you count all “excess deaths” during COVID against him.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We din't count him supporting israel?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

This would also apply to Bush Biden and Obama to name.few

[–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago
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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

You're totally right, but things get a lot murkier when we get into secondary- and third-order effects.

Bush's economic policy of bailing out Wall Street while letting Main Street fend for itself lead to 10s or maybe 100s of thousands of excess deaths.

Bush's defunding of education created an unknowable number of excess deaths, and this undereducation was a major factor in the election of Trump.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t know if bush can be really defended in comparison here as after 911 terrorism rhetoric ended up withsevere racism against anyone not white with a beard getting on a plane. He’s the one who kicked that one off.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Yea that admin willingly used Fox News to disseminate hate and lies. They are the first admin to directly use private media as a propaganda arm, and the marriage is what made trump so popular. He was an expert in sucking down propaganda, so good they made him king.

[–] RustyShackleford@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 months ago

Well, it’s time to rewatch Portlandia. Such a great show that made me discover the dream of the 90’s are alive in Portland.

[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He's fighting his own clogged arteries. That's important.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

That's the one thing we'd rather he not fight.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Communism and terrorism two excuses to advance us imperialism

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t “Democracy” be a better caption for the bottom right?

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

"America" puts it plainly enough.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 5 months ago

Trump should be the constitution or better yet a list of the forefathers.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Blue MAGA is glorifying George Bush and the war of terror now.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago

LOL someone got it!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Dry Cleaners

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah things really went to shit after FDR.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago

William Henry Harrison - pneumonia

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