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Venezuela has accused Donald Trump of making a "colonialist threat" after he said the airspace around the country should be considered closed.

The country's foreign ministry called Trump's comments "another extravagant, illegal and unjustified aggression against the Venezuelan people".

The US does not legally have the authority to close another country's airspace, but Trump's online post could lead to travel uncertainty and deter airlines from operating there.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 90 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The post above this was:

As Epstein files release looms, questions abound on what happens next: ‘Possibilities are endless’

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If the prediction markets weren't all owned by Trump and his cronies I would bet that boots go on the ground whatever day they are supposed to turn over the files.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I’m ignorant of the culture and structure of these markets still.

Would the market have to set up a bet for this? Can you propose it? How would it work?

[–] despoticruin@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's unregulated bookies. You would be better off betting a stranger in a pub.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

he using nixons method, go to war with drugs/vietnam, in order distract from his political problems, its a time honored tradition amongst conservatives.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m old enough to remember when trump would pretend to be opposed to foreign military adventures. He literally built his political career on shitting on the neocons that launched us into illegal wars like what we did in Iraq.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago

Im certain the nobel commitee is currently scrambling how to not give him an award without triggering an international incident.

And the actions surrounding Venzuela kinda prove that Trump is willing to go to war to receive his peace price.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

You're not wrong. But what is missing is all the cult building that he did since them. He built his entire political career on mentioning things other politicians refused to mention and then gaining loyalty for it. While, at the same time, literally doing nothing about any of the popular ideas he mentioned.

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[–] PoorYorick@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Just so it's clear, Venezuela has ample oil, and holds one of the world's top ten supplies of fresh water.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Didn't they also heavily develop a lithium extraction industry in the last decade or so?

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

What's even the thought there, you shot boats claiming they had drugs on them, are they claiming every plane is also carrying drugs? Why wouldn't they just intercept them at the runway in the U.S. to sieze the drugs if any of it was drugs coming to the U.S. supposedly?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 63 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because it was never about drugs.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

Well, it definitely wasn't about the friends we made along the way. We're actively trying to backstab each and every one.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure you'll figure it out when they start 'finding drugs' on their domestic enemies.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. And why not just intercept the boats too? More proof that it wasn’t about the drugs.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're trying to put all the fish in one barrel. They're doing a similar tactic with trans people in the US by fucking with passports

[–] ashughes@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

Precursor to an invasion. It’s basically a warning to the rest of the world: all flights going to, from, or through Venezuelan air space would do well to divert around it because soon that air space is going to be a war zone.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, Mr Nobel peace prize is just grouchy.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

China closes the airspace over Taiwan

Has a different meaning to everyone when you change the country names

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think it does.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

To me it doesn't. It is still bad. At least with China and Taiwan we know what they want, with Venezuela it is just speculation. Nobody believes it is drugs.

My speculation is that he isn't planning to invade and this is to push Venezuela and other Latin American countries to develop closer relationship with Russia. He did it with Iran, China, India and others.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

We know what they want in Venezuela too. It's their oil reserves.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Speculation? Let me speculate it's the same reason as Iraq 2, Iraq 1, Iran (Shah)...

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[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Honestly this comment is just so confusing and baffling I'm just dumbfounded. What on earth do you mean? The relationship between China and taiwan is nothing like the relationship between the US and Venezuela

Edit: even if it was...why would it just be presumed to be cool that China close the airspace around Taiwan? Wtf

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's rather the point? See how ridiculous is sounds in a different context?

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just ml and hexbear on that one

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t worry everyone. Some democrat will post a very safe and polite tweet soon.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean it's basically just declaring war. It's the US acting unilaterally to attack a foreign nation for no reason at all. Granted that's nothing new, but at least with Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush got permission from Congress through the Iraq Resolution (and the AUMF Against Terrorists Act in Afghanistan's case) before he actually invaded. I get the feeling Trump isn't even going to ask, he's just going to attack Venezuela, get dragged into a war, and die.

Then again, Obama attacked Libya without congressional approval, and while Congress could have done something about it, they didn't.

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They have oil. That's the reason.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wouldn't 'Imperialist' be more accurate than 'Colonist' though?

I don't think Trump wants a new American Colony in Venezuela, he just wants their resources and (unpaid) labor.

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[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 10 points 3 weeks ago

He's desperate to use anything he can to declare martial law, either by triggering mass anti-war protests or simply using the war as an excuse to suspend elections.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago

why not do something useful like ATTACK RUSSIA!

fucking traitors.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thr anti-war candidate, according to the nyt and wapo opinion sections

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, this is the new world order now. This is what Russia drove the world into: it's now ok for larger countries to just annex (parts of) smaller countries.

If other nations don't like it, just hang on to it until enough people forget that you didn't own it in the first place.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Pretty much what is happening in the Middle East right now too. And mind you if Venezuela didn't have oil, the US wouldn't care at all.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Russia is a genocidal gangster petro-state, led by a criminal wanted by the ICC, that should be kicked out of Ukraine, but credit where credit is due: the most recent era of great power military adventurism started when the US ignored the UN and international law to invade Iraq in 2003. So if we want to talk about who drove the world in this shit, the answer is clearly the USA.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is a fan of this method as well.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck this nazi shit country of the united christofascist goat fucking america

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

It Is a colonialist threat

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

If I were you, I would get out of Venezuela! - Our President.

Then shuts down their airspace and starts blowing up boats.

No escape from the christofascist murderers.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Every single fucking MAGAt, including Barron, should be lining up at the US Army recruiting offices signing up for 11 Bravo.

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[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Just wait 'til Trump sets his eyes on Colombia and Panama. There's a reason he's unilaterally renamed that gulf...

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

what the fuck

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Iraq War: Arepas Edition

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