We just called it the Creed voice even though Pearl Jam came out first.
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Creed is just the ~~diet~~ Christian Rock version of Pearl Jamb
Ah yes, my favorite kind of door jamb, the pearl.
godDAMNIT
I'm leaving it up
Pearl Jamb of God
I’d check it out
Ray Charles beat them all (kinda, sometimes)
MadTV did a good skit about this years ago
bunch of people I know have been calling it "underbite rock" for years, making the face and doing the voice just kinda go together
War leaf. War leaf. War leaf ayyy.
I enjoy both hearing and performing the yarl, ya know, in moderation.
One verse of yarl a day is okay. Might even be beneficial if it's red yarl.
Agreed. If every song I heard had it, I’d grow tired of it, but that’s not been the case for a long time (if ever).
When I was a kid, I called it "mumbly-whine"
Huh. I called it "singing through your teeth". That's how I karaoke 90s songs! Had no idea there was was a word for it.
I'd say stop doing it, but since it's karaoke it's almost like you have to do it.
I watched the video and still don't understand why she wants / wanted to get rid of yarling. She makes points but it's just a different sound overall rather than a "worse" sound IMO. It makes the bands she references feel iconic and unique.
Because it kills the resonance and shrinks the sound. She explains the reasons with examples and everything.
Yeah she did say that but still it's just different, not bad. I don't understand why it would be bad. Lots of artists have unique differences and I appreciate that
Grifting Youtuber vs Eddie Vedder 😏 I think I know which one I prefer. This is yet another slight on the working class bands of the 80s and 90s. What's next, no more growls in death metal? Everyone has their schtick.
Fucking youtube grifters...
"Yeah but she's a woman" - Lemmites
"distinctive"
'Don't do that thing that these several clearly successful musicians do because it'll make you sound weird.'
Having a word for it is fun but this woman is a dunce.
A buddy of mine called it emphysema rock back in the day and that term has stuck with me through the years.
But that doesn't make sense
I just thought I disliked most grunge
Turns out there's a name for exactly what I don't like about it!
I wonder why some people seem to change their voices when they sing
I'd assume its to achieve a certain style that they the singer find pleasing or complementary to the rest of the bands signature sound.
My favorite band with the most distinctive vocal sound is The Blood Brothers… They stopped the band very young and it makes total sense why—you can’t vocalize like that for too long without completely frying your voices.
Oh fair, yeah.
So you’d rather they just talked?
Fashion. British acts go through eras of sounding American, then sounding as British as possible, then American again.
That's a good point, yeah.
Often happens when speaking different languages too.
That's a great analogy
There's a lot of necessity there. Our natural speaking voices use the throat and lungs in a different way than any singing techniques. And, there's multiple ways of using them to get a desired sound.
So there's some degree of style involved, but past a certain point you have to change your voice to sing rather than just speak in tune (which is still a valid thing of its own)
What's the style of singing Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, and some other grunge singers have called? 🤔
Would those also be yarling?
I don't think those two yarl at all. Nor do they have similar singing styles at all really.
The style of Kurt Cobain doesn't resemble Chris Cornells (and vice versa) at all though.
The charismatic voice is working with the university of Alabama(I think it was) to understand metal and Rock singers vocal techniques. Chris Cornell has come up many times in those videos
She has done a lot of videos on them and, as professionally trained opera singer and vocal coach, is very much a fan of what that end of the vocal pool has done
Worth checking out some of her videos. Certainly better than whoever the hell this idiot is
Cornell fries his vocals(lightly) to reach high notes.
Cobain fries his vocals because he can't sing.
edit: ok, fine, cool off, I apologize. I didn't mention that Cornell uses a decent amount of falsetto, and exceedingly well, I might add. Best singer of the 90's for rock was Layne Staley, followed closely by Scott Weiland.
Still tho, love Cornell. Not even joking tho, Cobain works fine in a high intensity band and probably would've done great at hardcore. I just find him kinda forced on slow tracks.
Worst? Henry Rollins. Henry Rollins himself will tell you he can't sing and has on camera.
Technically, niether one of them can sing. Anymore.
Cobain doesn’t fry. His voice naturally went there without being forced to.
my god, Weiland was beautiful. too bad he was a train wreck.
Henry Rollins + William Shatner.
It's excellent and shouldn't be.
Can't get behind that from the Has Been album
Yeah, I would say so.
I absolutely hate the thing Eddie Vedder does and it was kind of a rift with my housemates at uni, who were too unsophisticated to understand The Jesus & Mary Chain like me. If everything is so emotionally intense that you might just die at any moment, then nothing is.
He was good on Twin Peaks The Return though.
Isn't that like 100% of what Shakira does?
it's not a tv studio