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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the "centrist", only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gavin never supported progressive ideals?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, early in his term he did a bunch of good stuff, it's just rightly overshadowed by the bad stuff.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Remember Democrats, if he's the Democrat option come election time it's TOO LATE TO bitch!!

Fucking primaries!! They matter they are the only real choice! Organize, cavas suppot real progressives!

But once the national election comes up, I better not hear any fucking bitching, and you better line up becuase 4 years of president Vance is going to kick you in the nuts.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I'm forced to vote for this asshole I'm going to bitch the entire time.

Why? Because it's bullshit and I'm allowed to.

Fuck the Democratic Party.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't like him, he's just another Republican-lite establishment Democrat, like Obama, or the Clintons. He used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, before she became Don Jr's concubine (Now she's in exile as the Greek Ambassador, to shut her up), so he must be tolerant enough of MAGA nonsense to marry one.

I'm so sick of these people claiming to be our saviors every four years, and when they get in, they spend ALL their efforts appeasing corrupt pedophile traitors, even when they have the power to crush them.

We've seen what MAGA is capable of, and what they want in the future. When the power flips, we have to fight fire with fire, and ruthlessly purge MAGA from our government and our society, and I doubt Newsome is the guy for the job. He's just another water-carrier for the Sociopathic Oligarchs, which California has lots of.

But if he's the nominee, then that's who I'll vote for over ANY MAGA.

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[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gavin Newsom takes money from AIPAC and knows he can't justify it, and has expressed support for Zionist Israel. Just like Holocaust Harris, I will not vote for anyone who supports genocide. If signing my name to greenlight genocide is the cost of "democracy" (actually oligarchy with some publicly-funded democracy theater), then the price is too high and I refuse.

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[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Billionaire tax should be 99%, no breaks or deductions. Boom I said it.

Even double digit millionaires shouldn't exist.

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 28 points 3 weeks ago

No surprise to anyone who's been paying attention to what he does instead of what he says.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point in time I'm pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 23 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

If you're not greedy, the billionaires won't fund your campaign. Then you lose.

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd vote for Newsom if he's the nominee, but I really hope he's not the nominee (assuming, obviously, the relative utopian future where we get to vote in 2028).

I'm glad when his media exposure goals overlap with doing actual good things, but - and I may be putting too fine a point on it - he's basically Hillary if Hillary had a penis and was super jazzed about it, and I am fairly confident I know the smug look he makes when he smells his own farts.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He's fully bought by aipac. A vote for him is a vote to murder children and civilians.

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Real shame that our voting choices are kill children and kill children at turbo speed but alas

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think he’d do well in a primary taking a proactive stance against a billionaire tax

[–] human@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The DNC has a plan for that where they just ignore the vote and nominate him anyway.

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[–] j4k3@piefed.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

His sales pitch is centered around "I'm not a Republican^tm^!"

Most people on this planet don't lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.

On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it's between him and <insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I'll vote for him.

However, I'd imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of "friend" of the poor and the middle class.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'd vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.

A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn't be voting for him, I'd be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Doozer@piefed.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Liberals gonna liberal.

I'd still rather have a capitalist than a fascist.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Scratch a capitalist and you'll find a fascist. But yeah gun to my head, I'll take it. Figuratively speaking, at least for now.

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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.

I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani's momentum continues.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that's the thing about capitalists: They come as a package with fascists.

Ladies and gentelmen, California Bush

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.

The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

Slimey as fuck I hate that guy

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I got a fiver that says he has to try to walk this back when he runs “the most progressive campaign in us history” in 2028.

I mean, how lucky are we? Hillary, Biden, Kamala, all with “the most progressive platform” ever!

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

And before that, Obama, Kerry, and if I remember right even fucking Gore were all accused of being the most radical left Presidential candidates in American history.

Funny how the Democratic Party keeps running more and more progressive candidates - both the Republicans and Democrats say they're doing it, so it must be true - and yet the Democratic Party keeps moving more and more to the right.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On the side of the billionaires and the zionists. He'll be the next president for sure.

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[–] rhubarb@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

At some point the left needs to realize that sitting out voting doesn’t work. Yes the candidate sucks from your political stance but they are better than the alternative and it gives a platform from which to push left. This has been the playbook of the right for decades and is why they have been so successful in shifting the Overton window. They vote in any circumstance even if the candidate isn’t as right leaning as they would prefer but to them at least it’s not a dem.

Edit: to be clear I’m all for taxing billionaires and corporations far more.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 20 points 3 weeks ago

We still have ample time to get someone better than Gavin.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Your vote is your voice. A vote is earned not expected.

[–] rhubarb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

As a permanent resident who cannot vote but pays 6 figures in taxes. VOTE. Some of us aren’t so lucky

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'll never vote for Newsom. I've stated that on here before. He's anti-trans and deep in corporate pockets. The Getty family owns him.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Well, then, fuck him.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago

I mean c’mon, let’s not get too carried away, next thing ya know they’ll be wanting to tax the billionaires or something.

Is anyone really surprised? He's just a neoliberal that's had a lot of good press this year.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.

Yuck.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

The only reason Newsom has had any interest from the broader electorate is that he was outspoken in opposing Trump. The minute he enters the primary and starts spouting the same valueless, donor-approved, corporate drivel as Kamala, Jefferies, Schumer, etc., he's going to flame out fast.

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck you sleeze bag

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

FINALLY. Someone thinking about the billionaires.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Jon Stewart, 2028.

The problem with Reagan and Trump isn't that they were actors. The problem is that they were complete pieces of shit long before they were elected.

Actor-presidents have demonstrated a natural propensity for revolutionary disruption of entrenched attitudes. Reagan completely fucked over economic policy; Trump is completely fucking over the fundamental concept of democracy.

Imagine that same degree of revolutionary disruption moving us toward egalitarianism rather than corpo-fascism.

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[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

And Newsom is different from Trump, how exactly? Dude hosted Charlie Kirk and Steve Banon on his podcast, that he wasn't required to do, and didn't question them, just nodded along like Joe Rogan.

Newsom is shaping up to be a DNC approved Trump at this rate. Loves Nazis, hates taxes, claims to love the real America, hated COVID protections being applied, doesn't care about brown people... Fucker needs to lose in the primary quickly. Assuming we get a fair one.

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