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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Haven't seen it posted yet, but I wanna get ahead of the inevitable mention...

Skylar White went above and beyond for Walt, she was a queen put in an impossible situation where she did the best anyone could've. People hate on Sky but however she was (just another) woman trapped with a violent and dangerous man trying to stay afloat to protect her kids.

If you think Sky was the worst part of Breaking Bad, then you didn't understand the show.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 23 points 1 month ago

Not sure I agree about Skylar being meant to be liked.

Despite being an anti-hero, Walter was the protagonist, and the show was presented in such a way that you're generally rooting for him, even if you don't really like Walter as a person.

On the other hand, Skylar is pretty much doing the sane and rational thing of trying to make the best of an impossible situation (as you noted), but she's still impeding or opposing the protagonist for much of the story. Since the story is being told from Walt's POV, it's hard to truly like Skylar as a character to the point where you are rooting for her. And that contradiction is part of what made the show interesting IMO.

100% agree though, if you actively dislike Skylar or think she was the worst part of the show, you've missed the entire point.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This one frustrates me so much. Skylar wasn't perfect, but she gets so much hate. It's so stupid.

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean in her case, I like to think the actress is so damn good I hated her character..... Vs someone I think cannot act.

But she was written that way, just like Hank (oops Walter...) was written to appeal to us, despite him being a literal fucking monster and Skyler being the best wife she could be in that situation.

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[–] Taser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Shut up, Wes~~t~~ley.

E: corrected 😅

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago

As you wish...

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I need to make this obvious: ⭐⭐Wes**T**ley⭐⭐🤩🏴‍☠️ is the opposite of what OP is looking for, whereas it is Wesley who needs to shut up.

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[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I could never stand Gina from Brooklyn 99

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Tbf I think with that character, you're supposed to love-hate her

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Replacement characters traditionally have a tough time:

Dr. Pulaski on STTNG. "PMS Bitchface" some called her.

The replacement Duke ~~brothers~~ cousins.

Chrissie (Suzanne Somers) replacement on Three's Company. And the replacement for the Ropers wasn't that great either.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dr. Pulaski on STTNG. “PMS Bitchface” some called her.

But that's what I liked about her!

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same. I don't think she was supposed to be likeable. I feel like she was supposed to be brusque and nailed it. Like Bev was grand and all but I liked Pulaski better as a character.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pulaski was supposed to be female Dr. McCoy.

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)
  • Scrappy Doo
  • Poochie (on The Simpsons but he was a parody)
  • Pretty much any child character added halfway through the show's run

Edit: The character of Jenny on Unhappily Ever After. She was played by Stephanie Hodge, and she was supposed to be the star of the show. Everyone hated her character, and she eventually got written off, came back as a ghost, and then abruptly left again.

The series was initially written as a starring vehicle for Hodge, whose character Jennifer was the focus of the first few episodes. However, the series soon turned its focus to Jack Malloy, a schizophrenic, alcoholic, and lazy husband who was kicked out of the house in the pilot episode. ... By the show's third season, Tiffany Malloy had become the breakout character, and Cox became the de facto co-star of the show along with Pierson.

In the fourth season, producers decided to kill off Jennifer's character, but returned her as a ghost. After continuing to torment her family as a poltergeist known as "Dead Mom", the Malloys realize that the show doesn't work without Jennifer as their common enemy. Jennifer is then brought back to life after a metafictional sequence, commonly used in the show, in which a network executive enters the house and explains to the characters that, due to the jokes no longer being funny, "Dead Mom" is no longer dead. Jennifer then returns and is overjoyed to be restored to life, until she sees the gigantic mess the family left for her to clean up. Jennifer throws a massive temper tantrum and vows to take terrible revenge. Nevertheless, Hodge decided to leave the show anyway, and several episodes after Jennifer's "resurrection", she eloped with a lesbian lover and was never seen again.

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unhappily_Ever_After

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 20 points 1 month ago

Pretty much any child character added halfway through the show's run

This statement alone is worth an upvote

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Scrappy is kind of a mixed bag actually. Long-term people started to hate him. But initially he revitalized the show and kept it on the air. He was really the successful add-on character.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Scrappy saved Scooby Doo.

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[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Meesa think you should watch da Clone Wars!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump in Home alone?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I actually liked Wesley. I am a nerd tho.

[–] stray@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

I saw a clip the other day where Wesley refused orders on moral grounds and Picard was like "rawr authoritarian bs >:|", and it made me rethink my childhood impression of the series. I might like Wesley, and I might hate the Federation. I haven't gone back to watch it for fuller context though.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A whole host of women on Supernatural who fans were supposed to ship with the main characters but who ended up rather same-y and at best were met with indifference. It got better in later seasons but never really good.

#Justice4CharlieAndEileen

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'll never forgive them for what they did to Charlie

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[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i'm gonna be honest, from all i've heard about the show, the thought of a heterosexual pairing never once crossed my mind or social media feed

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Cousin Oliver, the harbinger of doomed sitcoms.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The new characters in LOST who were part of the plane crash but only introduced in Season 3. Everyone hated them immediately, and just when they get their backstory and have a bit of character, they're killed off halfway through the season.

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[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What did anyone else think of Captain Janeway? I liked her, but I've heard more than one person say they couldn't stand listening to her, like they thought she sounded too bossy or something.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bossy

This is code for "eww a woman who isn't useless eye candy".

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Tbf janeway was a fucking boss. One of the goats for sure.

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Janeway is a fine character. Like all the crew on Voyager she is inconsistently written, but she is one of the better characters. Neelix fits the OP best.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

God I hate Neelix

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[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

I think she's hot 🔥

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Voyager didn't always have the best wrighting. It tried to follow the writing style of The Next Generation, which didn't work alongside the larger story arc of them trying to get home. So the quality of storytelling was all over the place and nothing that happened in a previous episode had any bearing on a subsequent episode unless it was a two-parter.

The original idea was Voyager was going to get more and more battered and ramshackle as things went on, but they decided that would be too expensive to model so they didn't do it. The only remnant of this that we have is The Year Of Hell episode.

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