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[–] Bonus@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Anyone who keeps outdoor cats in coyote territory is just an asshole. Can confirm. Do live in coyote territory.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

People who have outdoor cats are facilitating the extinction of birds. I'm completely serious. Domestic cats kill billions of birds annually.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah. The coyotes are just doing course correction for nature.

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anyone who keeps outdoor cats is just an asshole.

FTFY

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We had farm cats in coyote territory without issue. We never lost one to coyotes to my knowledge. You just need to ensure that you also have coyote deterants like an assault donkey or a llama. Having a big guard dog also helps. Basically, anything that would protect your livestock will also protect the cats. If there are enough threats to coyotes in the area then the coyotes will steer clear.

In our case it probably also helped that mama farm cat was a monsterous maine coon who I once saw literally beat the shit out of a full grown rotweiler that got too close to her kittens. It wouldn't surprise me if she had been hunting coyotes for sport.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't "can confirm" yourself! What is this lawlessness??

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I live in Western NY state, and even we have coyotes now. Not numerous but noticeable. They've extended their range beyond what you might think from the Roadrunner cartoons.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (90 children)

"Out~~si~~door cats" shouldn't be a thing, imo.

Edit: didn't realize I totally messed up the word, "outdoor".

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[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

saying so in front of the daughter is low key savage.

But it always boggles my mind when adults are shocked and horrified that predators ...predate. Especially non-vegans.

Like Bro. Hommie needs to eat, and they can't live off beans. (well, maybe coyotes can.)

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm glad I wasn't Disney'd in childhood. Better to know reality, than be deluded, made fragile and crippled by reality. Face the horror. Stop lying to children. Children become adults.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 28 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Grow up on a farm and you really have no delusions about how the world works. Although I did think teachers lived at the school so I was unclear with how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant

Presumably, alcohol involved.

Although, that too likely still naive.

... The perversions in the crooked cabal... they're into a lot of really really vile stuff.

[Edit: Oh... or are you talking about a different Mrs Thatcher than Thatcher pulling the strings... or grabbing buns or babies or something.  Scary ugly lady, with scary gesticulation.?]

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Presumably, alcohol involved.

Oh we love you Mrs Thatcher, like your old man likes a brew;

such a lad your husband Denis when he's had a drink or two.

Sure he'll take a pint of Murphy's and a glass of Irish Mist

and because he sleeps with you each night, no wonder he's always pissed.

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There were a lot of teachers that were married, and that in itself didn't make sense to me. Not because I thought they lived at school, but because they had such awful attitudes that I couldn't imagine somebody agreeing to spend their entire lives with them.

Then I grew up and realized that their husbands were probably awful, too. Either that, or the teachers took all their frustrations out on their students and had happier home lives. Either way, I still find it pretty sad. I know patience is a virtue, but you should know what you're getting into when you choose to become a teacher. Shitty teachers create traumatized students. If you don't think you can hack it, please, for the sake of all that is good, consider a different career.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shit like this is why it's so hard for you to adopt an animal btw. Shelters have no idea if you're a coyote feeder

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

evidently not, over there

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 45 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Meme or whatever, but fuckwits that keep cats outdoors (and cat hoarders) are the main reason why my charitable donations to animal groups focus on spay/neuter programs rather than shelters. I know the animals in shelters need help too, but reducing the inflow of animals into the shelters helps them as well.

And reduces hazards to wildlife from cats, whether they be outdoor pets, strays, abandoned, or feral.

And reduces demand for meat-based cat foods.

It's the most efficient way to help that I can think of.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

my environmental science teacher spent an hour talking about what apex predators cats are and how terrible outdoor cats are….
they pretty much kill for fun, all day….
if you declaw your cat (which is evil) and put a bell on it, then the last thing the bird will hear is a bell ringing while being batted to death.
they just decimate the local wildlife.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

if you declaw your cat

declawing your cat is like cutting last segment of humans finger. please don't do that, it is a straight up torture, far worse than cutting ears, and should be illegal.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

it should be illegal, that’s just an example of what people say as an excuse for why it’s okay for their cat to be outside

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Didn't seem like they were advocating for that, just using it as an example

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Parents be like: "Oops, my child just died, good thing I made a few backups"

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Go back far enough and yes, this is exactly how people thought.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"And then people accuse me of being socially challenging!"

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm socially challenging because I don't understand the liar's game and don't play along because I wasn't aware I was supposed to, so they get caught in a lie.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not OP, but I think I understand what they're saying.

Some people think lying is just a part of life. Especially those who think, "Rules for me, not for thee." Most people won't call out someone in a lie, for the sake of politeness. But that "politeness" is an aspect of social skills.

I was an honest, literal-minded kid with underdeveloped social skills. I had no qualms about calling a spade a spade. Think of the story where the kid calls out, "The emperor has no clothes!" Pointing out dishonesty makes sense for such kids, but doing so also breaks unspoken social rules.

[–] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

I love memes where coyotes and cats are replaced with different things here.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, a classic. Haven't seen this one in a while.

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Showed this to my family, the missus remarked that maybe the dude should keep coyotes instead of cats.

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