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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’d pay $20 a month never to hear about AI again

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

At this point I’d rather every corp pushing it lose all their money instead.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy is a web3 leader, agile coach, and he has a "Master of Science in Leadership & Organizational Behavior." Not a scammer at all.

And paying $20 a month to search for slop recipes and have your private data stolen is very cheap.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Web 3 was the NFT world, surely an AI fueled internet is Web4? Hm. Why haven't we heard of web 4 yet?

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The matrix is vibe coding itself as we speak!

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago
[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Opera can lick my hairy ass.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

It can also eat my ass like groceries.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People don't want an AI browser for free. Why would they pay for it?

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

This is what you call a AAAA quality CEO

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"You can ask it anything"...

"Ask it to fuck off."

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

And you may or may not get something useful 😅

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

Me to pay? It's a hard sell even the other way around.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn’t Opera already some Chinese spyware?

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Opera did ditch their own browser engine long time back and are now just a skin on Chromium [like many other browsers]. Opera, for some reason, has multiple browsers running. Neon isn't their main offering as of now. They technically have Opera GX [gaming focused version] and Opera Air [released some months earlier though I haven't used the latter] as well.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But they literally got bought up, and (IIRC) the main Opera devs moved to Vivaldi.

Opera, as it exists now, is literally just a just capitalizing on the old browser's name recognition.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is kind of funny. It barely had any name recognition at all, and for the die hards still on board, they all tracked the nuance of the situation and either gave up or went to Vivaldi.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

IDK. It has enough recognition that I’ve seen it confuse folks on Lemmy. And this is a pretty techy crowd.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is a "Gam8r focused" browser?

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Rgb… rgb everywhere!

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago
[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I want you to pay me twenty dollars a month. The difference is I won't get in your way like AI.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago
[–] madjo@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago

I never wanted your shitty chatbot in the first place.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's great. Better than putting that crap in the free version

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

dont worry. there'll be plenty of free ads and pop ups for those who dont pay

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago

Lol, lmao even.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

We bringing back the Netscape Navigator business plan?! Because that didn't work out so well for Netscape.

"This is different because AI!"

Business ideas like this share a thing with lemmy; They all overestimate how tech savvy people are. I could knock every door on the block and ask for opinions on AI and the only person who might have a clue is the young guy next door who does IT for the county. Everyone else would have no idea what I was asking or have a wildly misinformed opinion.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

LOL. Fuck off.

"The kids will line up to pay us to use AI"

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone old enough to remember the first time Opera had a paid version of its browser?

I swore it off then (90’s) and will never go back.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You used to have to buy netscape. You could also buy "the internet yellow pages" to find websites.

The 90s were a wild time on the internet.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I have one of those! I treasure my copy of UNIX for Dummies, came time frame.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Good thing that it was fully functional and only a very big Ad banner resides in the toolbar unless paid off.

But damn was the Opera Browser great (and the presto engine was super strict what I absolutely loved)

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So far unenshittified version of this:

https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS

An automated browser is a neat idea I’d occasionally use.

But it should be a free, standalone tool. It should not pop up in my face and beg me to use AI. It should not data mine the heck out of me. It should be local, private, pick-your-API.

I wouldn’t touch Atlas, Perplexity, or whatever this is with a ten foot pole.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We laugh about it but there are lots of idiots that will pay for it

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Who? America is a monster market and half of us read at a 6th grade level or less. Bet there's not 1-in-50 people in my hood that could comment on AI.

No business is paying $50/mo. a seat. It's a struggle getting auth for useful products.

SOURCE: Been purchasing IT for the last 10-years.

Imagine selling this to the boss. "Why am I paying for a web browser? Aren't those all free?"

Heard a lot of dumb AI decisions, but I gotta disagree on this one, no one's buying.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I wpuldnt use it if they paid me $20 a month

[–] Lev@europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago

The fact is that an AI assistant could also be quite useful at times, but people have to understand how the core functioning of a browser works (i.e. for the vast majority of things you use a search engine, not a chatbot), and its paramount to have a local AI for such services, in order to guarantee privacy and affordability