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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 143 points 1 week ago (10 children)

3 miles over 45 minutes. You can literally walk briskly faster than that!

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Honestly the number of people in that thread claiming that walking 3 miles in 45mins was some super human ability was shocking. I’d bet good money that they have never actually walked more than 5 mins anywhere other than maybe when shopping.

[–] owsei@programming.dev 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ok, wait. I regularly take a 1.5km (close to a mile) path uphill that I need 20min to walk (and people say I'm a fast walker). How are you all walking so fast? I need to wait for trafic semaphores and stuff, but how can walking almost 5km (more than 3 times my path) take only twice as long?

[–] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah my sustainable walking pace is around 4.5kph on flat terrain. And I'm a pretty quick walker. Which is around 2.5mph. 3 miles is probably a 70 minute walk for me.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I walk fast cause I'm 2 m tall and have long legs, but my ex used to walk a Pokemon go route with me that was 1.6 miles and it took us just about an hour to go through it and back. She was not very tall and had no problem keeping up.

[–] olosta@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

5km in an hour is a brisk walk. In 45 minutes it's probably closer to a jog. It's not super human but it's not a normal walking pace.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It might be a challenge specially in the worse of summer/winter.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Medan human walking speed is ~4 MPH* so, actually, yeah pretty much half of people aren’t going to be able to do 3 miles in 45 minutes right off the bat. That’s before we take into account crosswalks and other walking hazards and that obesity and sedentary lifestyles are on the rise.

* I was taught 5 MPH but I found multiple sources that listed 5, 4, and 3 MPH so yeah…

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

As a 5' person, 3 mph is a sweaty pace for me even in cold weather. Someone with long legs might find 5 mph easy but I'd be running.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not if there are dogs, or bees. Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you.

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[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

A bicycle would make him feel like Superman

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 125 points 1 week ago (14 children)

As much as I love a good Ten Minutes Hate directed at some carbrain too lazy to walk 4km, it seems I'm going to have to be the one to point out that it's entirely possible that this person's route to work is far too dangerous to walk, let alone cycle.

Just look at that strip of paint some of you are calling a bike lane. Maybe you would be willing to risk your life squeezing amongst the monster trucks on a bike, but I certainly wouldn't. And walk? Breathing all those tailpipe fumes for 30-60min? Hell no. This person may well be looking at 4km of car-exclusive road to get to work.

So instead of ripping into this poor soul for being lazy, maybe we should be considering the very real possibility that their options are limited by poor infrastructure/planning/politics.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

With the speed of the traffic being nearly none, I think cycling would be pretty safe in the shoulder there. I wonder what it's like in the morning

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 71 points 1 week ago

Not Just Bikes has pointed out in numerous videos places where the distance is walkable/bikeable but totally unsafe to walk or bike. Carbrain infrastructure is not just bad because it centers cars, but because it excludes every other option.

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very sarcastic comment, but if the traffic is bad enough then it becomes safe to cycle again because of how little anyone in a car can move.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually, that's a pretty good strategy. I quite like cycling around in heavy traffic for exactly this reason.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The aggravating part isn't not the lazy, but their complaint that they are building more density surrounding it's area. A less carbrained person would see that as an opportunity to push for bike lanes and public transit.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, even get the developers to pay a contribution as part of the permit.

I get the impression - or what seems most likely given their ridiculous situation of driving at average of walking pace - that they'll be asking instead for one more lane, and it won't be dedicated for bus or bike or tram.

At the stage they seem to have reached I think it seems quite fair to ridicule the whole city and everyone who has had the power to vote there for the past generation which presumably includes the ooop.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

That is just a narrow shoulder, you're asking to die riding a bike on that.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's a bicycle distance.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 55 points 1 week ago

Hell that's a walk distance for many of us.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It would be if decent bike infrastructure existed.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

You don't need bike infrastructure when the traffic is moving at walking pace

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It probably wouldn't be super pleasant biking on the sidewalk in that picture in the dark... But it might be more pleasant than sitting in the car right there for 45 minutes.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

especially if you get ticketed for biking on the sidewalk... ShArE THe rOaD

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[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thake the bike! Really! At 45 Minutes for 3 Miles, even walking would be faster.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

3 miles = 4.82Km for the rest is us.

[–] user224 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like a bike lane right there.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The amount of car brain in people is insane. I used to live in an apartment literally two buildings down from my work. Could see it from my window. My roommate still drove every single day. Dude lived in the gym so not like he couldn't do the walk

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago

Honestly I'm so glad I started biking to my high school all those years ago, it conditioned me to view biking as a natural solution for my daily commutes.

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I was gonna say, ride a fuckin bike bitch.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's a gutter. But then again, most US bike lanes are just rebranded gutters. I'd bike it.

[–] Zenjal@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I walk 3.3 miles to and from work, 3 days a week, takes less than an hour, even if I had a car I'd do that over a 45 minute drive, thas crazy business

[–] f314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

This doesn’t really look like a place with great infrastructure for walking, though 😅

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they only had one more lane...

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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

So... they're making more housing that is closer to your job? Move there. Now you have a shorter commute. Congrats.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Knocking out my daily jog on the way to or from work would be amazing.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

If they're building infill density, they should also build frequent public transit. Even something as simple as dedicated bus lanes would be enough.

[–] tensorpudding@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately not all forced to work are able to walk/bike 3 miles, though that is a good suggestion for most people. I'd be thrilled to be able to walk 3 miles to work so long as it is safe.

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

That's a 40 minute walk if you walk fast. Get a bike and it's probably 20 minutes (at least I tend to cycle around twice as fast as I walk)

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago

My work is only a few miles away and it only takes me 10 minutes to get there on my bike: I was lucky enough to find a place near work without it being impossible to ride though.

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