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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 82 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If the Iranian government is being too despotic, then Iranians just need to vote in candidates that will reform the government! I mean, if that’s what they think will work in the West, then it should be good enough for Iran.

[–] oliveoil@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Western liberals magically understand the value of putting one's life on the line to fight against state violence when it's brown people doing it in some far away country.

But when it comes to their own country, this would imply risk to their own lives - so their minds will come up with countless excuses and rationalizations.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That’s part of it, sure. But I also think the Western liberal sees the core of countries like Iran, China, Cuba, etc., as being so rotten that there’s no way to extract the will of democracy out of them and thus revolution is the only path. They’re broken beyond reform.

Whereas in the West, they can get apoplectic about figures like Trump bringing a creeping fascism, but they’ve got too much ideology to ever accept that the core of a Western state is rotten beyond repair. Thus measures like vote, reformations, legal challenges are always viable options because they see those as activating the good, democratic core.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Sorry but democracy only works for white people, thats why we call Cuba a dictatorship despite the fact there are literal elections to pass laws like same-sex marriage"

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[–] sandinista209@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago

Americans: Iran is a totalitarian state that murders its own people. Now excuse me while I celebrate a civilian being killed by the government because they were blocking a road.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

of heads of state that post, khamenei is among the best of them

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

no religion at all would be better

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

Sure that might be ideal but we need to work within our reality of a deeply religious population. What you want must come from within the people of Iran themselves. Outside forces cannot change this.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 31 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I wouldn't call the population of Iran deeply religious. Somewhat religious would be more accurate. More likely to support Islamic government over western despotism for sure. But I would be shocked if most people in Iran even regularly followed the call to prayer or anything like that.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

You gotta build the world you want to see out of the world that actually exists. The future can't exist without being born out of the present.

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[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (38 children)

"It would be better if the backwards savages embraced my civilized superior belief system!"

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