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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 166 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Are we really sure that AI is not just used as a scape goat for companies to raise prices?

Why HDDs?

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’s a cascade effect. Memory pricing went up -> Increased price of SSD with DRAM cache -> Increased pricing of DRAM-less SSDs after demand shifted -> HDDs became significantly more cost effective again as a storage device but now the demand for them increased so price went up for them as well.

2 months ago I’ve got Samsung 990 EVO Plus 4TB for 235€ now that’s the price of 2TB and the 4TB is almost 400€.

I’ve got 8TB Seagate Exos 7E10 8TB for 182€ in May now it’s almost 260€.

We’re fucked…

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

if you are looking at this from the US that is not necessarily the only thing that could be driving prices up though. You've got tariffs and a much weaker dollar than it used to be right now...

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

A weak dollar will work great for you when you bring back all those manufacturing jobs from overseas and start exporting the surplus production. Any day know. Any day.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah right, if they're buying thousands of terrabytes, I doubt they're doing it in 1 TB HDD SATA drives.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My understanding is the large AI companies sign purchase agreements with the manufacturers for X amount of drives. The manufacturers then take whatever chips/platters and build those drives. The AI companies have signed such large agreements that all the chips and layers are going to whatever drives they're asking for and none left to make consumer drives.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're replacing us. Until now, corporations have obviously marketed to the working class, even the poorest of us. And they put in that effort, but now they're moving past us bottom 90% of consumers and focusing on the top 10% and of course the ultra rich specifically. The top 10% of consumers already accounted for 55% of all buying power in Feb 2025, before tariffs, before the unnamed recession we're in now, before the shutdown and mass firings.

So now you can imagine what that number is at, and you can see their thought process. It's just not worth bothering to market and sell to us commoners.

Now, I think they're stupid and I think they're way too confident in something like the AI bubble, which will pop eventually. That being said, most new purchases (cars, clothes, electronics, ect...) are by the top 10%. They are gunning for our buying power and they are gunning for our labor power with AI. If they succeed, we will lose our two biggest bargaining chips. The ultra rich know this, and they hate that we have had any say over the economy.

If we're gonna do this general strike, we gotta do it soon, because they are actively working to make action like that impossible.

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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Storage capacity for datacenters and other data-hungry business operations (think YouTube scale).

Current alternatives don't reach the same capacity per dollar without caveats (magnetic tape has an incredibly slow seek time and SSDs are too expensive for non-cache usage).

Of course, AI data harvesting is essentially creating artificial (sorry) demand for even more data capacity, and it doesn't make rational sense for them to use other forms of hardware.

Fun fact - the scale of data involved is so great that Google famously used "sneakernets" (give an employee a backpack of hard drives and tell them to go from A to B) over traditional internet or intranet connections between their larger facilities in the 2010s, because it was faster.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The data used to create that image of the black hole had a transfer speed of 14GB/s because ~700TB of it was captured in Antarctica and spent 14 hours traveling by plane

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)
  • want to make a server
  • RAM and HDD prices spike

Fuck this

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proxmox cluster and shuck externals I started during the 2008 crash this is how I'd do budget HL

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Billionaires are not going to give you a chance to decide whether you want a dumb thin AI client or not.

You won't be able to procure the hardware even if you could afford it.

We are all gonna be some version the brotherhood of steel now

and if you don't shut up and like it you will be cut out of the internet ... black balled by ATT/T Mobile/Verizon while they refuse to drop fiber to the curb but will end up puling the copper off the poles so no more wired internet.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago

We've taken all the blame and put it on AI like it's acting independently and appeared out of nowhere. This is global collusion to fuck the customers everywhere. It's people doing this.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Just in time for me to want to upgrade the home server storage.

I guess I'm gonna have to salvage old hard drives and deal with the tiny space.

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[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bought a 12 TB data center drive that had 3 years of spin time on it for $94 August '24. When I check the eBay listing now I see it's $220 😵

It keeps feeling like this bubble won't pop and we'll just keep riding upwards like the housing market

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I don't think this is sustainable because it seems like a closed loop that eventually stops making money without any new inputs.

People NEED housing, they don't really need computer components.

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[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

See? That's why Satya Nadella doesn't care about Windows. Soon nobody will be able to afford a PC anyways.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They want consumers to have cheap low-resource systems so they are forced to use the cloud for storage and processing.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, all the power to do any form of large computation needs to be traceable and rented. You will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy with it.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

They're not the victims... WE ARE. They're giving in to the tech bros idiocy and catering to their wishes. If they any ounce of dignity as a honorable brand, none of them would have risen their prices. There's literally ZERO actual reason for them to do this other than tech bros rigging it against the rest of us.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Phew! I just bought three 16TB drives a couple of months ago for my jellyfin setup.

Selling them for $5000 each if anyone is interested.

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[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We are spiraling towards a you own nothing and rent/subscription it all society.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago

Honestly. Tankie as hell to say this, but thank fuck for China providing cheap easy alternatives to mainstream hardware

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll just note there is still a loophole: external drives have sales in the $10-11/TB range, and you can shuck the drives.

Right now $280 for 26TB, for example: https://slickdeals.net/f/19091557-26tb-seagate-expansion-desktop-usb-3-0-external-hard-drive-280-free-shipping

That's apparently CMR Barracuda inside.

These may disappear completely, or may simply be drives that AI data centers do not prefer permanently, since they are not rated for 24/7 use. Fine for RAID home server use, apparently, though

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember doing this years ago, but the only problem I remember is they were 2 hard drives instead of 1 inside split in size to lower the cost. Idk if its different now, but if you expect 1 drive at that size that could be wrong.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So computer parts are just the new toilet paper then...

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck, I thought HDDs were spared cause of their low speed.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 12 points 1 week ago

Companies usually use HDDs because they last longer and are cheaper

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Made me buy a used 10tb drive recently.

Screw them all, I will have a place for my data and I won't pay them a dollar for these shenanigans.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I will use a book shelf sized rack of RAID hubs filled with 1 GB flash drives before I buy a single fucking KB of cloud space.

I will install an ancient version of Linux on my mackie D8B soundboard and use that as my PC before I ever buy a goddamn cloud computer.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We will never be able to replace our old thinkpads

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's been a while since I bought storage. $500 for 24TB seems like a steal to me. Not that I have any need for 24TB. Also, I don't trust Seagate drives. I'd rather have four, 6TB drives than one 24TB drive, but that's just experience talking--I've lost several drives over the years, and most of them were Seagate. YMMV.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Less than a year ago 279 was a baseline price for 24tb

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[–] laserkaspar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My 2TB SSD (which I bought for about 100€) failed, I could get my money back but a new one is now 300€.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

Noooooo!!

I just dreamt last night I had 2 more 28tb hard drives for my server to backup.

Now it's a nightmare. Fuck AI!!!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AI has really been great for the economy. /s

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Time to buy some sbc boards so I can actually host content in ten years, with whoever's software considering the foss devs will be broke.

Thank fuck I'm a millennial and I only have thirty more years on the disappointment machine.

If you're under 30, learn how to shoot. You won't be doing much hosting.

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago

Goddamnit. First ram now this? I'm never making my nas

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glad I picked up new NAS drives when I did. 8x 18TB Seagate Exos for $180 each. Two years later its doubled

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

I am so fucking jealous of you right now. 

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why… why would hard drives be going up in price?? AI does not use spinning platters of rust, like, at all.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes it does. Where do you think they store those gigantic training datasets?

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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An with my investments i really wanna cash in right now, i feel like the bubble is about to burst in the next 3-6months. Then stocks would go down by like 30% and i can buy in again.

Im almost certain its gonna crash down and i wanna be out before that happens but right now stocks just go up way to much.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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