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The problem is you have so many SEO slip makers gaming the algorithm that no one can keep up.

And most of the decent content is gated behind walled gardens now.

I use DDG, which works for about 90% of my searches, but when it doesn't work, I go back to Google, often in a private window. I do agree that Google is still just, I dunno, better?

Its easy to disabled. Also, check https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

I fucking hate ai but ddg's ai summary is the one place I don't mind it. It doesn't open unless I click it, and I only click it when I don't actually give a shit about the correctness of something. It's great for throwaway factoids that you're curious about in the moment but won't remember or care about an hour later lol. Often saves me from wasting time going down a wikipedia rabbithole when I need to be doing something else

lite.duckduckgo.com is my default search engine. I have other more specific searches for stuff like Wikipedia and sepiasearch, and I use duckduckgo regular for shopping.

DDG gets its results from other search engines. Bing is one of them.

There was also a big thing about DDG allegedly selling user data to Microsoft, which the living brain donors of 4chan probably interpreted as DDG being a different front-end to Bing.

There are really only two usable search engines actually indexing the entire Internet: Google and Bing. Yandex also does but I've never seen it recommended for anything other than Russian language content (the company itself seems to be falling down a mineshaft at the moment). Baidu also does some although every Chinese exchange student I talked to about it (admittedly not many) advised only using it when Google is blocked. Every other engine is just wrapping Google or Bing (yes that includes Yahoo and DDG)

This is the kind of ugly truth of the search engine business. It's a duopoly at least in part because the indicies are expensive to scrape, build, and run. You need to continuously run a large number of servers loading web pages and often running scripts. You need to be large enough to negotiate with content providers not to block you. Keep in mind paying them may bankrupt you as your margins will be thin. Google has a huge advantage here they own a good chunk of the online advertising industry and can afford to throw money around in a way a search only company wouldn't be able to (this is why the European and Canadian link tax schemes ironically cement the existing monopolies). You need to continuously run large linear aglebra transforms on the results (PageRank is expensive). You need to store all your indicies on large expensive servers with a lot of memory as hitting disk may take too long. Results need to be fast and you will make next to nothing on each search.

My understanding is that they outsource the search part to bing's search back-end. Saying DDG is just Bing is like saying two butchers are the same because they get their meat from the same supplier.

Nobody else has mentioned this but there have been several times that Bing censored something and it propagated to DDG, most notably when Microsoft censored Tank Man (intended for China, probably) but then Tank Man also was censored on DDG.

Partly because of these incidents, I could never consider DDG reliable.

I just want altavista back.

I just want altavista back.

I just want altavista back.

Ask Jeeves became https://www.ask.com/ which still works. Not very good for finding results.

So ecosia doesn't rely on google nor bing?

[which is also bing..]("Search results and related ads on Ecosia come from our partners Microsoft Bing" https://support.ecosia.org/article/579-search-results-providers#%3A%7E%3Atext=Search+results+and+related+ads+on+Ecosia+come+from+our+partners+Microsoft+Bing)

At least as good as google. The belief that google is a better search engine is antiquated, based on a situation that no longer exists. Google has long since fallen to ad algorithms and bloat.

https://noai.duckduckgo.com/