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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Frag your commanders. Edit: less dramatically, liberate some weaponry.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 169 points 2 days ago (9 children)

And yet, you're still doing it.

As they say: historians have a word for Germans who supported the Nazis because they liked their economic policies, or were afraid of Communists, or they wanted power, or they wanted the business, or any of a hundred other reasons. That word is Nazi. Historians don't care what their reasons are.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

were afraid of Communists

It works really great when you draw a circle around everyone not in your tiny camp of Tacolovers/white supremacists and declare them to be "Communists" as so many of the conservatives do.

I'm sure they did much the same in Hitler's Germany, too. Everyone that didn't adore him were probably called socialists, trade unionists, and Communists.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I voted for Mr. Hitler because he'd be good for the economy. I didn't go in for all that Jew-killing stuff. You can't blame that on me." --German Citizen, 1946

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Hitler wasn't elected, unlike Trump. People voted for the Nazi party, and Hitler was appointed.

Americunts literally voted to elect a convicted felon, rapist, pedophile for a president. So, yeah...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It was a facetious comment, meant to make a point. It wasn't meant to be an accurate slice of history, but you know that. This thread is full of lots of insufferable "Actually..." types.

And Trump didn't win, it was rigged, and we ALL know it, even MAGAs.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How was it rigged? Asking so we know what to look for next time.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago

They just had to change one race in only 7 swing states. Those states had MILLIONS of ballots that were straight Democratic tickets, with Trump at the top. Who votes like that? Have you ever heard of such a person? Has one ever been interviewed on TV? And why were they only in the swing states?

Trump has cheated on literally EVERYTHING in his entire life. He considers it his competitive advantage, and thinks everybody else is stupid for not cheating, too. He was also facing a probable life sentence in prison, unless he could become president again. So we're supposed to believe that the only time in his entire life that he didn't cheat, was the one presidential race that could keep him out of prison? THAT'S when he decided to play it "Fair & Square" for the first time?

Furthermore, he had the open public commitment and assistance of two foreign Oligarchs with no loyalty to America, and plenty to gain, with UNLIMITED hacking resources, conspiring to rig the vote. In full view of the world. They fucking bragged about it publicly multiple times.

And again, all they had to do was switch the votes in one race, in only seven states, and Trump won ALL seven states, a statistical impossibility.

AND AGAIN, why are all those Democratic ballots with Trump at the top concentrated in those seven swing states?

C'mon, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's simple Critical Thinking Skills.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"it" in this case being standing around and picking up trash

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[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 129 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They're also a Republican voter, and voted 3rd party in 2024. If they don't think this is what they signed up to do they're a fucking idiot.

[–] brooke592@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

It's crazy how we keep having this discussion when the real issue is democrats nominating establishment candidates instead of ones who actually serve the working class.

We need to direct all of our energy towards fixing them. Republicans are beyond saving.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One can't just quit the National guard. There's a contract that holds them for a period of time. Imagine somebody signs a 6-year contract in 2022. I don't think they can be held liable for Trump's actions when it wasn't even clear he wasn't going to actually run again. I signed a 4-year contract as an active duty service member in 2021. I got out in January last year and so I'm thankful for that. But every day or so I have to think about what my colleagues would have to decide. They're not in it to subjugate people. They're in it for a steady career and because they believed in a liberal America and looking to make the world a more stable place. The military is a sword and it really depends on who's using it, whether it's good or bad.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I knew someone who defected from the military. Wasn't supposed to do that. Broke his contract. He's still alive and he owns a house and he's got a wife and kids and a good job.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, that’s because it’s more like having a felony when you are dishonorably discharged, but who knows given the context of your story what happened. Was he enlisted or an officer? Which branch was he in?

Like different things could happen depending on the situation:

United States > Military > Army > Active Duty Army United States > Military > Air Force > Air Force National Guard

These are both the military and being defective would be awol. Sure they are all under the UCMJ legal system, but that can be applied differently in each case.

There are different types of discharges from the military a depends on how that army unit wants to report that particular solider.

It’s just more of spectrum of thins that can happen.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Defected? Like went to a different country?

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm assuming they meant AWOL (absent without leave).

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes, that's the term. He went AWOL.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That sort of thing goes on your record though. You don't simply leave the service without the government knowing. They will literally put a warrant out for your arrest

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

Okay well this happened like 40 years ago , and he got a good job and house and wife and kids starting 35 years ago, so he's apparently unscathed by his AWOL shenanigans. He ran away in the middle of basic training. He couldn't hang with it. Apparently they let it slide.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think statute of limitations on most of the common ucmj articles maxes out at 5 years? It's been a while, but short version is a cousin of a friend went awol and basically hid on a shrimping boat for years until they couldn't come after him anymore. Not easy for sure.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wait a minute, wasn't that a scene from Forrest Gump? 🍤

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t think anyone went AWOL in forest gump

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes, I guess. But can they? Without consequences, that is.

I suppose everyone has their own set and level of consequences that keep them from immediately reacting or trying to stop events.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Sorry, Americans. You had 20-30 years to stop this slow motion reactionary train wreck without risking serious consequences. You failed to do that, so now your choice is to do it the hard way or just roll over and give up now. All indications point to you having already decided to do the latter.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

I'm American and I agree. People can downvote us if they want, but what we believe is true. There is literally no way this ends peacefully, and we shouldn't just be rolling over and taking it. Our whole country is a fucking joke full of larpers

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've spent years screaming into the void, trying to wake people up, feeling like Cassandra. After the election I had way too many people try to console me with "at least they're gonna go after the immigrants now"

I don't know what to do now but all I see is no quick solution. I think the hard way won't result in the change needed and is only part of the accelerationism that got us here. We should all be doing what we can to set up for the longer haul.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

After the election I had way too many people try to console me with “at least they’re gonna go after the immigrants now”

That was supposed to console you?

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I can't even do the mental gymnastics what they were thinking beyond I'm "white" (I identify as Rainbow People™) so i must agree with their racism.

Trying to talk about trans issues beyond pronouns with any of them was met with uncomfortable silence, nervous laughter, or nonsequiters; so i don't know how I expected better from them.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I'd be curious as to why they thought that Donvict's admin is only going after immigrants, anyway. I mean, given history of fascist actions....not that I expect these types to be any sort of students of history.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Things have to get much worse before people do anything on a large scale. In most parts of the country, day to day life is unchanged.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I was in DC and saw them standing around in the metro station... Did not look happy to be there.......

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