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One of America's biggest mistakes is signs and billboards. Its completely turns tge landscape in an ugly mess. I live near a wealthy town. They dont allow billboards or signs over 10 ft tall. It looks so much better
BINGO,
That mountain area looks really pretty
It needs a parking lot and strip mall /s
Everything is pretty that hasn't been touched by Americans
Ok that's outright bigotry and you know it, we have huge swathes of land without roads here that are maintained by Americans
Its insane cause even in this picture you can see a beautiful fucking mountain, ruined by the stroad.
better that my town, that one has sidewalks
It's almost a joke. Who would ever walk in this sidewalk? To go where?
Some drive through I guess
But I mean, it's not connected to anything. It's just a massive sidewalk with no purpose.
My old US city has at least a couple of roads like that. No mountain for something to ponder while you wait at a stroad intersection, though. Just more asphalt, terrible sidewalks and parking lots all around for miles.
By building cool stuff in that long strip of nothing.
Or even crappy stuff. Meet ya at the Burger King. And we will drive up that big fuken mountain. And burn some shit in the woods, drink some beer. Gonna be a kickass time.
Fun is where you find it. If you ain't found it, keep lookin.
I've been often wondering, how will we use all this car infrastructure once people advance past private cars?
What will become of that drive-in McDonald's?
I could imagine some sort of a small-scale factory using the building?
Multi-storey parking garages could also serve as storage space, maybe? The tilted floors make many things more difficult, though.
Multi story car parks would make good bases for covered markets, or other community things I would suppose otherwise drive through diners would probably reclaimed the space within the restaurants. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ housing is always a good shout but it depends on population density and access to facilities :)
The reason you have a car park is because things you want are around it, so housing just being there instead of a car park means people have access to the things they want to use :3
I like my towns version of this, a legit throwback to the 1960s.
- We have a nice walkable “Main Street” of shops and restaurants, and have been trying to permanently pedestrianize.
- we have transit oriented development. Downtown is now zoned for up to six story apartment blocks, with only one parking spot per unit, and yes, this area also includes a multimodal train station
- public parking, including two garages, are behind everything, in a back alley, where they don’t impact people as much, and very few shops and restaurants have their own parking
I’ve wondering whether that drice through is already on its way out. Maybe it’s just me who no longer uses them, but
- I try to make healthier choices
- online order and rapid pickup is so much easier and faster
- even on road trips, my last holdout, if I’m stopping I need to use the rest area and charger anyway
Multi-story car parks make for a decent base for apartment buildings. They usually are built in areas people actually want to go to. What will be more interesting is what will happen with the large parts of cities, which will be abandoned. To make any alternative work well, you need density and that requires giving up large parts of cities, if the population stays roughly constant.
At least they’ve got a mountain to escape to.
I know where this picture was taken, I’ve stood in that spot.
Fuck Murray, that place sucks.
That's Orem
This comment chain is peak america.
Go to the mountain.
In my unprofessional opinion:
-Remove 2 lanes (single lanes for cars in one each direction, include raised intersections where potential high foot traffic and biker may occur)
-Improve sewage, electric, water, gas and cable lines; this should be done first bc you want to avoid heavy rain/flood.
-Add electric light transit (train) with bike/walk lanes (bike and walk lanes should connect other parts of city, and should use over and under bridges as needed) also be able to service major metro lines from nearby airport or major transit hub
-Add plenty of housing: bc this view has a Mountain it’s difficult, but with public parks (3rd places) housing can be 3-4 floors high)
-Trees!! (That thrive in this climate pine, oak etc..)
-Arranging it is all the toughest, you’d want residential face Mountain View/East/West Some restaurants and parks to have similar view There are cities you emulate from e.g. Athens Greece, Mt Fuji has couple of cities around it,
I see an opportunity there for a mountain climbing club.
But I take your point.
This is in Murray, Utah, there are MANY a mountain climbing clubs.
Thats the feature, not the bug. Connected communities lead to less dependence on large corporate 'services'.
Now, all we need is flying, solar powered, only community owned/COOP, but on call & safe options to let the vehicle fly itself. vehicles in body shapes of our favorite vehicles, like ‘65 Mustang. Think I am dreamer if you want, but all the technology already exists!
Fuck cars of any type. We need trains of all types.
Worse than automobiles that are shared, & even more so, when they fly.
Not on energy expendetures. Cars are wasteful. Period. Trains are efficient, not as efficient as bicycles, or E-bikes, but that's what you use for the last mile.
Small planes are even more wasteful.
This whole thread I have not been posting about traditional automobiles, not cars- hold to few passengers.
“ Does not mean everyone should own 1 or more, they should only be allowed to be used:
In car pool situations, come to each people’s location or each person’s location when needed & leave to go to the next people’s or each person’s location,
Obviously have solar cells on their bodies
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Fly & if need be drive on the ground
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the least important-
Come in the shapes of classic automobiles (it would be cool if it customizable by a vote on the passengers, but not a must).
All of these are technologies that already exist, just separately.”
No way anything else, even trains, can compete in best for The Earth & All Living Beings, including Us, & in affordability!
Think about this, commercial air travel industry no longer needed, fades away, huge benefits.
That's a commercial district. It's not intended to be a community.
Oxford street, one of London’s primary commercial districts and heavily retail-focused area.
Oxford street looks like a community to me, and at the same time it's fulfilling all of the same "retail focused" aspects of what is shown in OP's post/image.
@NarrativeBear @BradleyUffner most shopping districts outside the US incorporate housing or offices above the shops as standard. They absolutely are communities - and residents' footfall sustains the businesses.
That's kinda the whole point