All I want is an EV without a built-in screen or SIM card.
One I can drive off the lot without consenting to an EULA or Terms of Service.
Edit: Holy shit, found one: Dacia Spring Essential
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2026
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That car is rebadged Chinese EV and certainly requires a SIM.
Lack of SIM card/telemetry is the holy grail for me. What happened to the stereo though?
It doesn't have one.
The Dacia Sandero models before 2020 had a built in head unit...
...with the exception of the Access model, which featured "pre-wiring for an entertainment system".
I suppose they had to go to some lengths to reach their sub-£7k price point in 2016.
Even if you get that, there's no telling what they'll do when you take it on for service.
The other option is the Slate truck.
The other option is the Slate truck.
1% chance that thing will happen.
Now, every time I climb back into my Ford Mustang Mach-E, I can’t stop thinking about you ...
This kind of Chinese propaganda is what Ford CEO Jim Farley himself has been doing for a long time now (you'll find ample evidence across the web). In this particular case it is even the article's tone ("I will wait for you, Xiaomi. We shall be together again one day.") that makes it clear it's an advertisement rather than a test drive report imo.
Europeans and Canadians don't want to buy American anything anymore.
So... You're Canadian most of the time, but when you're in the bathroom European?
Edited to help you
I’m European or Canadian.
Wut...
Dual citizenship, maybe? I'm American but am about to hold EU citizenship by marriage, so I'd be American or European.
I would buy Trump's head for under 3-5 euro.
Mostly because American vehicles are over priced and shit.
Americans don’t even like American cars lmao
Yeah, that's been true for a while. I have a Tesla model 3 and it's the first American car I've bought in 30 years. If it weren't for the surveillance capitalism, I'd say it's an an exceptional car.
The whole car world has changed though. Honda used to be great, but they're kinda shit now. Toyota and Lexus are still pretty great for long term reliability. Comfort is great, but driving dynamics are mid. BMW and Mercedes (some of them anyway) drive very nice, but you don't want to own them out of warranty. Most American cars are somewhere in the middle. They've improved a lot since the 80s and 90s, but so has everything else.
Designed by accountants, over weight, over priced and barely last through the warranty and part of the US vehicle experience is signing up for a class action suit because the warranty, dey do nothing.
We haven't since the early 1970's.
The CEO of Ford says they’re building a thirty thousand dollar electric pickup? That goes in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” bin.
It's only designed to put SlateEV out of business.
Elon Musk convinced the world EVs need to be expensive but the reality is his cars had the highest profit margins in the industry. EVs cost less than ICE cars to build, because they contain hundreds fewer parts and very little R&D because electric motors are already >90% efficient. Battery prices have dropped 90% since 2012. Ford, GM, Tesla all got into EVs because of the promised profit margins as luxury vehicles for simps. That's why they put hundreds of stupid gadgets and screens in them, to make it appear like value. And it was working, but he couldn't help his little Nazi ketamine antics.
Lithium batteries are now $110/KWHr, so for a 50KWhr car that's $5500. Sodium batteries already available from CATL are 30% cheaper. Newer EV motors are down to $500. EVs are cheap cars to make.
I’m not talking about concept cars or mockups. By “see it”, I mean on the showroom floor, available for sale to the general public at that price.
Still, thanks for the pic!
And the people that buy Ford trucks will say it's for woke sissies that don't like rolling coal.
American cars have become useless rusting behemoths with all of the reliance taken out and car stopping tech thrown around everywhere. Let the beast die already and we can buy foreign until we figure out where we went wrong (it was greed all along).
You will rent to own that dumpster cybertruck and like it.
Chinese EV build quality is far superior to Tesla's garbage. Panels don't even fit right on a Tesla and their allowable tolerances are insane.
The Xiaomi SU7 was pretty insane when it came out. I think if it was available here at a comparable price to China, it would be pretty much a no brainer for me too.
It’s coming from a biased source but some Japanese manufacturer partnered with a Chinese manufacturer and expressed concerns that the rapid design iteration late in the process could introduce long term longevity concerns.
That does sound familiar if you remember the response to jap-crap in the 1980s, but could be a legitimate concern as Chinese manufacturing has a broad range of quality standards.
That sleek software is feeding a stream of your neighbourhood and activity to the CCP, which is a bit concerning too.
Overall I’m hopeful that the Chinese auto manufacturers can shake up the industry and promote affordable EVs.
Mentioning the blatantly obvious cybersecurity concerns about Chinese EVs on the Fediverse? Prepare to get downvoted!
That sleek software is feeding a stream of your neighbourhood and activity to the CCP, which is a bit concerning too.
And so is tesla...
Well, a Tesla in USA feeding data to USA is a bit different than a foreign government, and WSJ is a USA based paper
But it’s a valid point for the rest of the world.
Feeding any data anywhere is a concern.
German hacker association Chaos Computer Club found out that VW had collected location data on their cars on a badly secured system. That data was exfiltrated and it was shown that it could be used e.g. to determine where politicians lived, which schools they dropped their kids off at and which brothels they frequented.
Leaving data in the hands of a company subject to foreign jurisdiction is concerning but even within your local jurisdiction simple carelessness can lead to data leaks with potentially massive consequences. The best way to prevent misuse of collected data is to make sure the data isn't collected in the first place.
a Tesla in USA feeding data to USA is a bit different than a foreign government,
are we 8 years old? You actually think Elon won't sell your data abroad?
You actually think Elon won't sell your data abroad?
Yes. And even if he somehow intended not to share data oversees, I recall a history of his hiring inexperienced technology staff...
Is it really?
I want a Nio with battery-swap, and a hitch for the unicorn-trailer.