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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

In NYC you'll get a ticket if you stop for pedestrian crossings. I got a ticket for stoping and letting a pedestrian cross the road.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Which law does that break?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

In France, these days, you lose your license. Period. I don't know what the results have been though, but I think it's a fairly good approach.

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 hours ago

I was expecting this to be the "carry a brick"-trick.

[–] Bysmuth@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Am i the only one that finds this terrifying as a pedestrian? All the people in the video had to stop when they arrived at the intersection and wait for a car to allow them to cross. If someone were crossing here unaware and started crossing immediately, this thing could hit them anywhere up to the face. And that is if it doesn't have enough force to make one loose their balance or straight up catapult them. I refuse to believe this thing is actually just active and without supervision. I think they just deployed this thing for an afternoon to get the shots and coached the pedestrians. I find this anything but brilliant

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah obviously this is a film set. That's what PSAs are, little government adverts. They didn't deploy this on the street and they're not suggesting this as a solution to a problem. It's a fun little sort of advertisement that has been created to try and make a point.

It's like the Swedish advert from the other day.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It’s a controlled film set…Every single face you see is a unionized actor, any “candid” feelings are purely manufactured for effect.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

in Turkey, we pedestrians always yield to cars.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

Sort of unrelated but what is Quebec like to live in? I ask because my wife and I may take refuge there in couple of months with the way things are going here in the states. I don't speak French and the only language that I speak, besides English, is Spanish.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Québec is very Nice to live in. We expect immigrants to learn french, and keep religions to themselves. All religions. Catholics have it easier because of our history, but still priests dont go proletyzing un school anymore. Se are largely socialist democrats. Way left of wathever is left un thé usa. The indépendant mouvement is currently gaining ground but i dont expect it to win indépendance while Trump ils un power.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wild you type with an accent.

I like it

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 minutes ago

I love the French Canadian accent!

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Quebec is notoriously difficult for immigrants to Canada. Highly recommend heading toward Toronto or Ottawa instead

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 minutes ago

What about Montréal?

[–] Mailloche@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Try to learn French and don't shove religious beliefs in our face. That's about it.

Though our current government is trying to scapegoat immigrants for their own incompetence. I'll give you that. We're kicking them out next term however, we promise!

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yah, don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about the people, I'm talking specifically about the Quebeçois govt being super strict with immigrants they allow in. I am Quebeçois through heritage so this is not coming from any place of judgment, just how things are to get in these days sadly

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Depends where. Most places around Montreal and Laval are pretty bilingual. The further you get away and eastward (3 rivières, Quebec City, etc. ) the more French it gets, even as close as 30 minutes out you might find there’s no English speaking folks at all, you will still be alright at most tourist destinations though. Not sure how it gets more westward towards Ontario.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Here in Denmark I can basically just jump in front of a moving car on a crosswalk (one without traffic lights) and if the car so much as touches me they risk losing their driver's licence.

I know The Netherlands is the same like that. Not sure about other EU countries.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The French will try to run you over, and the Italians actively speed up when they see a pedestrian.

In the UK you actually do have to stop and people do even Audi drivers stop sometimes.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

In SEA, the vehicles don't stop, but they will try to go around you. So the key is to walk at a constant pace.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The graveyard is filled with people who had the right of way.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Only in countries that lack sever consequence.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

In Germany I'd say in nearly all occasions cars would stop if I actively walk towards the crosswalk. If I just stand on the side and look and wait its not that uncommon that cars still don't yield even if they should

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Same in Norway. The moment the walker puts a foot on the crossing they have the right of way.

Remember when at uni a exchange student from Luxembourg and one from Russia was discussing that one big cultural shock for them was how cars stopped at crossings in Norway. I drive quite a lot and its so ingrained in me to watch for walkers and to yield if they want to cross,

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems like if you even look like you might be approaching the crosswalk, the cars come to a halt in Germany.

In the USA, cars will actively run you over in the crosswalk and likely face no negative consequences.

[–] zener_diode@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

It's important to note here, that in Germany (at least, the region where I live) you will fail the practical driving exam if you don't stop at a crosswalk with any pedestrian within about 5 meters, unless they are actively walking away from it.

I think overall German driver's education is significantly better (and much more expensive) than in the US.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Makes me wonder then why crosswalks even exis in the first place in the US. Like then what's the point of them? Literally no difference to crossing the street at any other point which doesn't have a crosswalk. Would literally play out the same.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -1 points 6 hours ago

In my experience it's comparable in Spain, if not slightly better

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

In the US, you can only get them to stop if you get hit. And that's only a maybe.

Pedestrians and bicycles aren't even second class citizens in the states.

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[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 66 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (8 children)

it's cute and all, but the real reason they don't stop is because the authorities aren't enforcing that law effectively. the places where people stop crosswalks do so because they'll get a ticket if they don't.

this may raise awareness, but won't change behavior in the long run.

when i lived more in the city and didn't own a car i would make hard eye contact with drivers when crossing. my logic was that if they kill me I'll at least haunt their dreams with that look.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 30 minutes ago

Ah, the Kash Patel look...

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

If your traffic infrastructure requires a cop to stand there for it to work, it's shit infrastructure that's designed to fail.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's a very outdated view of traffic engineering and psychology. People (and animals in general) don't stop doing things in response to punishment unless they have a very high chance of expected punishment, way higher that any society could afford in case of traffic control.

If you want people to stop, you've got to build the infrastructure in a way that makes it psychologically natural to stop. Some paint on an otherwise Amercan road won't do shit. You've got to visually and physically narrow the space for drivers to make it uncomfortable or even damaging for them to pass through at unsafe speed.

That low speed is also slow enough that drivers don't feel like they're losing as much by stopping, making them feel like stopping for pedestrians is a lot more fair.

Look at Dutch traffic engineering standards for pedestrian crossings. They're a car-centric country that puts a lot of effort into getting cars everywhere in a relatively safe way.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 28 minutes ago

Look at Dutch traffic engineering standards for pedestrian crossings. They’re a car-centric country

Are they now?

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced it's all about enforcement. In Portland, Oregon, there's not much threat of enforcement but cars stop at the slightest hint of a pedestrian crossing anywhere. Not sure how they pulled it off but there it's a culture thing, not enforcement.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 27 minutes ago

it’s a culture thing, not enforcement.

Yeah but then you can't bitch about cars in a car-bitching community.

[–] JayDee 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You can do the same thing without cops more cheaply in the long run. Just raising the crosswalks to sidewalk height completely changes driver behavior, as it's both a speed bump, and it's clearly communicated that the crosswalk is the pedestrians' territory that the driver is crossing through.

We can deal with most of these issue through design rather than a threat of fines.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious how this impact snow plows. Every speed bump I've seen in the region I live in that gets a few feet of snow each winter will have little flags that should stick out over the snow to indicate to plows where they should lift up for a speed bump. I should look sometime to see how scratched to hell they are though to see if plows hit the bumps a lot

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

That seems pretty simple. Use the small snow plow that clears cycling lanes clear the raised sidewalk lengthwise, then have the snow plow that clears car lanes drive over it without being weighed down.

...you do have a snow plow for non-cars, right?

Right?

Also, more generally, building a 5-15 minute city means snow plows don't need to clear nearly as much area. A city built for people can afford to spend more time clearing pedestrian infrastructure and modal filters, because it's still less than clearing ten thousand kilometers of suburb.

With the reduced driving time for emergency services, you can even waste some time clearing a path ahead of them or having ambulance personnel walk, and keep side streets unplowed if the weather is right.

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