Apparently there are some super addictive additives in these marijuana vapes. Best to avoid them.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but that article is just typical fear mongering BS. It keeps the eyes of parents glued to the screen and consuming ads. Doesn't even say what "spice" is. Articles like this are basically broiler-llate and come out every few months. Notice how they manage to blame social media, and how they don't mention any adults using it at all.
I found the wikipedia article on these things more useful and less biased. Spice seems to mostly refer to a designer drug that is similar to THC, but is not THC. And while it is often used to lace marijuana or mixed with weed vapes, it isn't just weed.
It's like hearing about people adding PCP or LSD to weed and freaking out about how dangerous weed is. Like... Yeah you shouldn't buy drugs from some random guy on Snapchat.
Yeah. Spice/synthetic full cannabinoid receptor agonists are honestly terrifying and have such dramatically different effects from legit cannabis.
That's why buying a legit vape from a dispensary and not a gas station is important.
It is why in Canada the government was so adamant that vapes here are 100% cannabis, well that and a fear of popcorn lung.
weed
popcorn lung
You trying to make potheads cannibals?
yeah, if you're going to use carts stick to reliable vendors. idk anything about spice, but popcorn lung is a legit worry.
Vitamin E isolate is a wild thing to put in vapes. At least with nation wide legalization we can hold legit vendors liable.
yeah stick to dry herb or edibles if you can. healthiest ways to partake
Welcome to my thoughts after my (adult) stepson gave me one of the infused joints their biodad got them for Christmas.
...well, the day after I smoked it anyway. What I actually thought during was "Well, since I'm obviously going to die tonight the beanbag chair isn't such a bad place to do it."
Had a conversation with my stepson afterwards where they said they were smoking very infrequently due to how it impacted their anxiety. I said "Well yeah, you're not smoking weed, you're smoking joints that can't actually kill you but try their damnedest anyway. I've had mushroom trips that were easier on the ol' noggin."
I'm on my third year of growing my own weed. This years harvest was purple satellite from humbolt seeds. I use a dry herb vape and roughly consume 0.15g to 0.2g in a small canister. It's almost too much. I'm a life long smoker and this shit is so strong I almost didn't enjoy it sometimes.
I just want the tiniest hit. I don't even want to do more than a 2mg edible unless I want to have anxiety.
Everything's too damn potent & I have 0 tolerance. I'm trying to chill but instead I'll just get a panic attack from hitting it too hard.
Looks like an old thumb drive to me.
Source : Trust me bro, p. 24, University Of California Press, 2015 I would love to read a thesis written by this dude
Really though. It's crazy how much high is at your fingertips these days. Back in the day you had to buy weed and usually roll it into a joint or blunt, or at the very least pack it into a bowl. And either way it was getting smoked. Maybe you had a brownie once in a while if someone you knew was making them.
Us IT nerds at university made a makeshift vaporizer out of an end table, an air mattress compressor, a steel ashtray, a soldering iron, some sort of wire mesh, a large glass bowl, and some aquarium tubing.
I’m really enjoying my vaporizer. Confusingly named because it’s very different that a vape. Basically you load real weed into it, not oil, and it heats its just enough to get you high without smoking. Feels much healthier on the lungs than a regular joint.
If anyone is looking for this, they call them "dry herb vaporizers" these days, to alleviate confusion.
And they are good
I’ve tried a few and never had much luck, don’t seem to get proper hits. I stick with the vape carts although it’s concerning to see an increase of disposable ones making e waste, I have several rechargeable batteries at home and don’t need a new one every time
there are a lot of shitty dry herb vapes. i hate to recommend reddit, but the vaporents sub had a good list of reliable brands on their wiki. I have a couple Firewoods (my Firewood 9 is my daily driver (it has cherry wood around the vaping chamber and it smells amazing, but i am a wood dork), I use my Firewood 5 when the 9 needs maintenance which is like once a year at most) and they are both phenomenal. They are selling the Firewood 11 right now (you can get gorgeous wood covered stems i want one so much) and if i wasn't completely satisfied with my 9 i'd be buying one. Dynavap is a good place to start if your budget is tight.
I've had much better luck with the ArGo compared to the PAX
Hell yeah, this is the best way. Full spectrum natural effect without combustion.
It's gotta be one of the only positive bits of progress the US has had since 2001. I don't even smoke (combust) anymore. I got one of these a few years back and never turned back. It's incredible. I haven't bought flower in like 5 years.
It's a consequence of weed being illegal. If you need fewer grams to get high (because it has higher THC content) you can sell less weed for the same money which makes smuggling it much more cost effective.
I'd argue it's actually the other way around, as someone who partakes in a legal us state.
The "old weed" stories told to me by old timers was often whatever trash you could get ahold of. You didn't get a choice, whatever wet, stemmy-ass baggies your local dealer was passing is what you got. Sometimes you got zonked, sometimes it was mild and pretty "meh".
Nowadays all the legal states have tightly controlled commercial growers making flower from carefully propagated genetic lines, optimized and controlled indoor environments, taking lab tests of every batch. Since what legal dispensaries list on the wall is the THC%, thats basically the marketing number that they try to maximize. These commercial growers make so goddamn much they end up dumping product everywhere, and even though "it's illegal" this industrially strong weed gets exported to every other nationwide black market.
Couple that with all the different forms of distillates you can buy right off the shelf, there is more raw THC available to the modern stoner than there was to anyone else in history.
OP's commenter probably took a solid hit expected an old weed joint puff, but got their lungs jackhammered by 40 years of pure industrial optimization.
Eh, I'd argue the current industrial practices in legal markets are geared to the consumer base that experienced a trend that started with the black market. Most places didn't go from mexi-brick to legalized industrial weed. It went mexi-brick -> homegrown -> Emerald Triangle style shit of increasing potency -> legalization.
There's still a market for the milder stuff (👋), but if your bread and butter is chronic smokers with high tolerance who used to smoke shit trafficked from California or BC or what have you, you're gonna focus production on that market.
My kingdom for a good ol' fashioned White Rhino at average early 2000s potency. Could just be nostalgia talking but that always seemed to be a right on the button experience for me (relaxed but no couchlock, silly thoughts, nice flavour profile, good times all around).
Yeah, the Mexican dirt weed I used to get as a teenager, you could smoke half a joint by yourself and be buzzed.
I quit when I was 18, but then I moved to a legal state and I took one puff and was legitimately stoned for the rest of the day. Like, could barely control myself.
The modern stuff is super strong.
Okay but as someone who has smoked both before and after legalization, it's true that you had to take what you could get, but shortly before legalization, while it was still illegal, is when concentrates took off. Part of the reason is that if my friends and I went in together on a big buy of flower that turned out to be weak, we would just turn it into concentrates and/or hash. The lack of selection fueled the use of concentrates.
The same(ish) thing happened a long time ago in North Africa with dukkah when nicotine was illegal, just like moonshine a century ago in the US. When something goes underground, concentrating the drug happens. It's almost inevitable.
Imagine coming home to your parent trying to be mad at you, while also incredibly high on your drugs.
That would be a weird experience, to say the least.
Years ago I would try to hide my pot smoking from my parents.
Now I am hiding my pot smoking from my kids.
Someday my kids will be hiding their pot smoking from me.
And my dad ended up getting into hydroponic gardening shortly after I moved out.
The circle of life, man.
When my son was looking at colleges, we took a couple of road trips together to see schools. We've always been very close, and I told him my drug history, as a true cautionary tale. I didn't tell him to not try drugs, but to deal with them responsibly.
Today, he'll do the occasional edible, but he doesn't like smoking at all. I definitely use way more weed than he does. He's a lightweight, one canned margarita does him in.
Tbh, if I saw my dad absolutely fucked up after hitting my vape pen as a teenager, it would probably have rattled me enough to make me stop for a few years at least.
I would just keep swiping their vapes and not say anything. See how long it takes.
The parent tax
Gen-X here. Most of us grew up on absolute trash weed. Modern weed is incredibly clean and strong. Vapes are a distillation of that. When it's all said and done, taking deep hits of a THC vape after only having a few puffs at a Pearl Jam concert back in 1994, might lead to regrettable consequences.
I was a good boy who didn't do drugs until adulthood, and I have medical marijuana now. The feedback I've gotten from pretty much everyone who did drugs in the 90's and 00's vs today is the same as your experience. The "weed nerds" have spent decades in their labs and the state-by-state legalization has greatly accelerated their progress.
Even my pharmacist warned me when I first got my medical card "if this is your first time using medical marijuana it's a lot stronger than what is usually on the street, so watch out".
The first time I hit a cart after years of just flower, I had to just sit down for like half an hour before I could think thoughts.