Oh, we know.
We saw the planes falling out of the sky over Kuwait.
Clearly this was about as well-planned as any of Donald's "business" ventures.
A community for discussing events around the World
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF OCTOBER 19 2025
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
Oh, we know.
We saw the planes falling out of the sky over Kuwait.
Clearly this was about as well-planned as any of Donald's "business" ventures.
We're gonna lose military bases over this, and likely never get them back
Bibi wants to go back to being our only option over there, and he's clearly willing to make everyone else hate America to accomplish that.
Because Bibi wants to wipe them all out, and he can't do that why they host US bases
We’re gonna lose military bases over this, and likely never get them back
Who's "we"? USA? In that case that's good, you don't need military bases all over the world.
They clearly mean the USA and if you read slightly further they also cover at least one reason the US losing bases is bad for people besides the US:
Because Bibi wants to wipe them all out, and he can't do that why they host US bases
I'm not trying to say the US should have bases by the way, your comment just seems to be shooting from the hip and filled with emotion enough that you're not reading
Bibi wants to go back to being our only option over there, and he's clearly willing to make everyone else hate America to accomplish that
The US doesn't need any help on that front.
The countries that were giving trump planes a year ago are now "rethinking their investments in regards to America".
I guarantee without Bibi those countries would still have a positive view of trump
Rationale companies already hated him, this is making far right authoritarian dictators hate him too.
Leaving Israel as our only ally in the region in an attempt to guarantee support even after trump leaves office.
Why are you so willing to give a free pass to the United States? We were never on the right side without there being economic plunder for the already wealthy.
By "free pass" do you mean "only point out issues with Bibi"? I personally wouldn't call that a free pass but if that is what you mean, I get your comment, if it isn't then I probably need it explained to me
We see a lot of hand-wringing from Democrats, it'll at least be interesting to see if every government in the world is equally impotent in the face of catastrophe
They typically are. If there were more politicians with spines, we wouldn't be in any of these situations, and yes, I do mean any of them. And as we all know, there's a LOT.
Usa is acting in a way that should fend off every single ally except for Israel. Wonder if the gulf states will move away from them after this shitshow. I suppose a new Iran would be a welcome thing for most of them though
If Trump succeeds he may be forgiven, that's how it usually goes.
But there's a very significant risk/chance, that this won't go well for USA. We can already see how ill prepared they are, especially since this is allegedly planned since November! Already as many patriot missiles have been used, as Ukraine have gotten through 4 years of war with Russia. It's an insane way to prioritize help to Israel over Ukraine!!
Compared to desert storm, this is amateur hour. Maybe a president with severe dementia isn't the best commander in chief?
I'm statesian and i don't know how tf we are supposed to succeed in any of this iran war bullshit. Surrendering now immediately and giving them Krasnov? Best option for everyone involved, but that is so improbable that only krasnov has mentioned total surrender and he always chickens out.
I'm curious what you mean by "succeed" here. I'm assuming not "Trump holds a press conference says he's done and sells some questionable statements as why". I'm assuming you have something more concrete but I'm not sure what it is. Levelling the place like what happened in Palestine? Sending in the army to help with a regime change like they did in Iraq? Waking up tomorrow and there is a pro-US christian government in place that's sycophantic to Trump?
You are right, I don't give a shit about what Trump or the white house may say. And I think by far the most people don't either.
Succeed is by the definitions stated for the attack, a regime change in Iran to something more US friendly, and a stop to Iran supported terrorism.
Claiming a stop of the development of nukes is purely propaganda, because Iran had already agreed to that.
Well stop being allies then!
I would imagine the U.S. is like a grizzly bear: Occasionally, it mauls you, but it's somewhat better to be an ally than to be its prey.
Trump has made clear America has no allies, only proxies and supplicants.
The one exception is israel and that's because of the capture of US media, politics and business by Zionist fanatics
Trump has made clear America has no allies, only proxies and supplicants.
Everybody knows that in international politics there are no friends, only interests. That's not news.
What Trump is doing new is that he's not furthering American interests but actually heavily damaging them. You can't trust crazy people, even if your interests align, because they might do this: act against their own interests. Makes them an impossible partner.
The Epstein-Trump criminal syndicate was an Israeli-American intelligence operation. That's the ONLY scenario where all of this makes sense. That's the only scenario where all of this, including the American Nazi parties rise to power, lead by the Epstein class, was allowed to happen.
There is no chance in hell these "intelligence" agencies weren't complicit in the worlds most high-profile corporate oligarchs, billionaires, and royalty frequenting a pedo-brothel for more than 2 decades. We already know they had mountains of evidence for most of that time. They're the only ones who have visibility of, and could cease all law enforcement investigations of, all perpetrators across the developed world. Epstein used unencrypted gmail comms to discuss their crimes because they knew they were protected by the overarching surveillance apparatus.
Yeah but now that the bear has found the meth cache it’s becoming less and less bearable…
Once upon a time USA was a rational actor. Now not so much.
Do the basics and stop letting them have bases on your territory to terrorize your neighbors then.
Bullshit. They're asshurt for betting on the wrong horse, thinking Trump would defend them while Israel has him by the balls.
Hilarious that Gulf Arabs think they are equals to a Western imperial power rather than just privileged vassals.
Iran is giving them a cold dose of reality.
had ignored their warnings that the war would have devastating consequences for the entire region.
That's... They point? Hit the wasps nest and loot the remains.
Well yeah because the United States doesn’t give a fuck about the GCC countries, half of them won’t exist after this war.
They were allies to the US but MAGA took over and they should change that or they’ll continue to get fucked