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Women are like cats. They rub on you, climb on you, try to be near you, sigh when they're next to you, and we're like "I think she's just being friendly". Also, I just told on myself that I don't have a girlfriend because I compared women to cats...
I mean my boyfriend calls me good kitty but like you should like warm up to that lmao.
Do you have cats?
I have a cat and I get messages on dating apps from women telling me they like me but I need to get rid of my cat to date them. It's fucking weird.
It's nice of them to tell you that you should ignore them.
there is a tend of people being aggressive now in dating where they basically like list out all their demands and then expect you to say yes or something. it's so fucking weird to me to demand that a complete stranger pay your bills for you or get rid of their pet for you, but it's popular on tiktok and all that. and if someone says no your demands, they are a weak and pathetic person. There is just this weird like 'make major lifelong commitments to me from the get go' nonsense going on.
maybe I'm old fashioned but when i was growing up you typically didn't make demands from strangers, you got to know them a bit before you started asking them for major commitments and then you respected them if they said no. relationships were something that emerged and you negotiated, they weren't employment contracts where you specified everything you 'need' before you even met them.
something something commodification of relationships, I guess?
men are discouraged from approaching women and women dont want to show their interest in clear way. How have we not gone extinct yet?
Because the internet isn’t real life and plenty of people know how to talk to people, including those of the opposite sex.
We are on the way. sex and relationship rates are massively declining for Gen Z.
I have four newphews 16-20. they have all dated. all but one of them has already sworn off dating because they think it's total bullshit and they thought it was miserable and no fun to have a girlfriend, for the very same reasons, I also am frustrated with dating and relationships in my 40s. It's insane. It took me 30+ years of dating to get fed up, they were fed up in 1-2 years.
And all of us agree the issue is women's expectations they get from social media. My 17 year old nephew broke up with his gf because he got her flowers and she complained they were not $200+ that he was a 'low effort' boyfriend and all her friends dog-piled in group chat and agreed. He's 17 and he makes 15 bikes an hour part time...
Like why would any sane person want to subject themselves to group harassment from multiple women for the 'sin' of not being able to buy her absurdly expensive flowers? In my situation, I take women out on $100-200 dinner takes and get told that I'm a 'loser' for not taking her out to a $1000 restaurant on our 3rd date. It's INSANE.
None of that happened 10 years ago. If I took a woman out to a $100 restaurant 10 years ago she was STOKED. Now the refrain on the news is 'men are not good enough for women and women are giving up'. Without acknowledging the changes in women's expectations for men due to their addiction to social media and constant consumption of 'lifestyle' influences.
All anyone blames is the manosphere... and how evil that is. But really it's both sexes that are swept up in these toxic sexist expectations that are making both of them miserable and lonely and unable to connect with other people.
Where are you finding these women? I've never dated anyone like that. Not disputing that they exist, but to take out enough of them that it's worth bitching about online may indicate a problem with the choices you're making. Plenty of women are looking for an actual connection and relationship with someone.
they are the majority of the single women in my city in their 30s, on dating apps and in real life. They choose me, i don't choose them. They send me likes on apps, they chat me up, they go out with me, they date me. Last night I got 3 likes on a dating app from women who said on their profile that they want a 'real man' to take care of them... my profile says I am not a 'real man'. And yet they will still pursue me. They think I am hot/attractive, but they basically want me to change everything about my lifestyle and personality and beliefs...
The women I am interested in aren't usually single. So unless I start an affair or poach someone's wife, I can only date the women who are single who are like this. I am not interested in trying to steal people's wives and girlfriends. Those women don't have single female friends for me to date either. Every liberal outdoorsy nerdy girl I meet, is never ever single. Some of them are lesbians/queer though and very cool, but again, I can't really date a lesbian/queer person as a straight guy.
I try to date outside of my city, but women in the suburbs usually even worse and they are usually conservative Trump types who hate me for being a liberal. They also are interested in me.
And all of us agree the issue is women’s expectations they get from social media
Yikes. Sounds like you're all single for good reasons.
You're kinda down to the dregs when you get to your thirties, the nice ones have all paired up by that point.
Damn.
15 bikes an hour is really fucking impressive, no what what kind of bikes.
Right, depending on the margins, he could probably make good money selling those bikes.
We slowly are, most western countries have a birth rate below what we need to maintain the population.
That’s for economic reasons that have nothing to do with gender issues.
Nah, it's a mixture of both.
Damn the incels turned OUT for this post lmao
The only wisdom is in knowing we know nothing.
Hint all you want, the decent among us will still be terrified of looking creepy. Just tell us!
What most women don't get is that men like assertive women.
Some men don't. Just like some women don't like assertive men.
People generally, like other assertive people who are clear about what they want. I don't have any issue with a woman giving me a clear rejection. But I really hate the fake 'rejections' they give me most of the time that leave the door open or the bullshit double-standard where they reject me and then expect me to 'try harder' to win them over because 'men need to chase me'. or whatever horse pucky they believe.
The bear thing scared a lot of decent guys off.
Like is a strong word. Let's say she's used to you.
Why are women even taught/expected to behave like sneaky spies when it comes to romance? "Ok, time to do my personal hair signal that I'm interested and want him to approach"
Probably because historically the patriarchy took away women's rights to be able to choose mates and had years and years of arranged marriages. Then couple that with women being in those forced relationships who could not chose their partners looking for comfort outside of the inhumane treatment of forced marriages and you get societal pressures that taught women they dont get a say in romantic relationships and as such them showing interest had to be covert as it was typically to those outside their prescribed marriage and if caught they could at the very least be socially disowned or at worst be literally killed for it. So yeah im not surprised women have a tendency to be less obvious about it its only very recently in human history that they got to have a say in finding partners.
I don’t think that’s it.
Being clear about your desire also means that rejection is clear, and that hurts.