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She's rich, so she knows that things are different for Anakin. Several genocides more later, and turns out she was right, he gets completely absolved and becomes a force ghost as a younger version of himself to boot. Something something dark side affluenza. The force is basically just another dimension to wealth inequality.
"Midoclorians" is just another word for inheritance.
Vader: I have committed many genocides, you will have to be more specific.
We are censoring genocide now?
I've seen much milder words being censored. Words that don't even have any negative connotations.
Maybe it's to avoid getting buried in the algorithm on mainstream apps that avoid that word. It's likely just a copy paste from one of those.
“The algorithm” really doesn’t care about font changes.
People’s grasp of modern computing is insanely outdated. Nobody does simple string matching at scale like in the ye olden forums.
Any decently advanced system will “know” the words you black out or write in a weird font or with a modern expression like “unalive”
Even with the consumer accessible multi-modal language models reading AND understanding th context of text in images is fully trivial
Yet publications on TikTok with the word suicide get banned and deleted, while unalived do not.
It's true that they do know what the content is about, it's just the politics of online social networks shaping communication.
I can't tell if it's censorship or meme spelling
After she dismissed him murdering what was certainly over a dozen children as "everyone is human" i dismissed her as any moral authority on anything,
Remember, the only Sith who is also a human supremacist was from Naboo.
do we even have a full count of all the genocides?
Was Vader involved in the genosian genocide, too?
Are we counting the genocides during the clone wars?
Sure. Edit: the geonosians were genocided after the clone wars when they were used to start construction on the Death Star and genocided to hide it by the empire.
Bet that made it hard to go back to the builder and order a second one.
I will never understand why the empire didn’t use captured b1 units as droid labor.
Yes, they’re totally incompetent. But it’s either incompetence or intentional sabotage.
Its because the best robot they could do in the 1980s was a guy in a gold suit or a wheelie bin.
TPM was the 90's, they started production in 1997, first in theaters in 99.
and for the record, I was on my third FDM printer. or maybe my second. (depends if you count my dad's inkjet that I strapped my mom's hot glue gun to. Just for the record, I did ask if I could have the printer.))
Oh, Im not saying that shouldnt be counted just saying Anakin committed a ton of war crimes during the clone wars, you did ask for the full count of genocides afterall
I get that, I was just adding context for people who haven't seen Rebels. (if anyone hasn't seen rebels... you should.)
Like the poisoning of Honoghr?
I imagine one is the sand-people tribe, that is arguably ok, and the other is the younglings murder that is a serious misuse of that word.
well the younglings murder was a genocide of the Jedi people. The rampage on the sandpeople tribe was murderous revenge
I don't think that's a genocide though.
Mostly because in the Star Wars universe you can't really wipe out either the Jedi or the Sith. Both try to wipe the other out but haven't succeedes whatsoever because they are extremely basic religious/philosophical positions: "The force exists to do 'good' (whatever 'good' is)" vs. "The force exists to make me strong". Jedi are Jedi and Sith are Sith only because of those values plus some beaurocracy.
Compare that to human religions where they first construct an extremely elaborate setting with a shitton of incorporated fanfiction to argue why they and only they are right and all others are wrong. That's so much more complex, you'd have to stop believing in a billion different things if you were to switch religions.
Tl;dr: It's not genocide if I were to kill all philosophy students at my university because in my point of view their views are evil.
I mean people are still defending... You know what, I don't think I want banned from this community.
He did at least 2 genocides in the movies before the OT, where he destroyed a planet with tarkin, but didn't he do some genocidal things in the clone wars shows too?
Well, but those would be genocides against Clankers....so it undoes one of the earlier genocides.
Yoda: “Know of second genocide, she does not.”
If Darth Vader didn't force roofie his childhood crush, at the bare minimum he was a manipulative asshole and was just saying/doing whatever shed like, just so she's like him.
Considering how often Jedis use mind tricks, and how Anakin gets corrupted by the dark side, it really doesn't seem like he'd hold back from doing that.
From what I know of the force, it might not even be controllable?
Like, if you had the highest magic bacteria count as an angry teenager who wasn't conditioned to suppress every emotional or idea of a romantic life, it might take literal effort not to have the Force influence it.
If everyone else has been suppressing emotions since infants, no one else would know to tell him to watch out for it happening. Maybe Yoda would remember cuz he's old? I don't know how long "no boning" was a rule.
Why am I only now realizing he was mind tricking her into liking him?
That horrible "romance" makes more sense now.
waves hand
Nah bro, it's total normal for a planet ruling monarch to immediately throw her life plan away for a monk she met once when he was 8 years old and his religious order had just started suppressing his emotions...
To be clear tho, this is one of those head cannon post fact rationalition things. I'm not saying George wrote it intentionally like this. But we have what we have to go on.
With that and logic, Anakin was likely doing it to everyone. He was an emotionally stunted 8 year old in a teenagers body deep in puberty with an incomparable amount of power he didnt know how to use. He was always doing what an 8 year old would think is cool, and mind tricking people into thinking it's awesome. That's why kids loved those movies. Anakin did what kids would want to do and his magic bacteria just made every other character play along like it wasn't insane.
Like the theory Jar-Jar was actually really powerful, but for him instead of flashy showboating, he just stumbles thru insane situations, looking like a complete idiot but still getting the same result.
Same thing, just manifesting differently due to their own perception of themselves. And Palps used both as tools, like a lion taking the antelope that strays from the herd.
Which is why the Jedi mindwashing was so important for a unified organization. If force manifests based on how the user sees themselves, then you'd want your army of force users to all have the same self opinion.
If George had written Anakin like that, and if he had followed through with Darth Jar Jar, it would've been absolutely brilliant.
To be honest, waving a hand is a pretty natural thing to do while talking...
Like, I'm all about Jar Jar as a powerful force user, I just think like Anakin, he had comparatively little training, if any. And likely didn't know he was using the force, just lucky.
That also explains how he grew up and lived on a single planet with just his own people. If he was an actual Sith, how did he get trained? Also, it can explain how his people eventually figured it out.
When Jar Jar was around he always came out on top, and even tho he didn't make any sense, if you talked to him you ended up agreeing with him, then after he left it'd wear off and they'd realize it was a stupid sounding idea, but the stupid idea always seemed to work out.
If they were afraid of him, they'd have treated him better, instead he was treated as a freak that above all else, his own people that knew him best just wanted to avoid him, even if he was incredibly useful.
Like an old timey witch. They didn't like him because he was so strange, but they still saw his value and understood they may need him. When all else failed, they could always fall back on a Jar Jar plan, so stupid that it just worked.
I feel like that type of begrudginged acceptance explains the interactions more than everyone being scared of him.
But it's been a long time since I watched the prequels.
wait until you realize that, in AoTC, when Obi and Ani are going up to Padme's pad, Padme remembers (and is excited to see) Obi and totally didn't know who Anakin was until Darth Jar jar called out 'Annie!"
they were totally knocking boots.
Edit: also you can see anakin-the-dumbfuck finally putting it together in RotS.
Edit2, also notice how she was far less excited when Obi was there on business.
Do we have conclusive evidence for his intend?