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Or do people think that Lemmy is a neutral, open-minded, safe community? Not like evil Reddit.

EDIT: Talking about mainstream instances like ml or world.

See examples of violent comments towards me and instead of mods removing their comments, they removed mine.

The comment that the all caps person was replying to was me saying that there are non-human targets. Users were assuming I want to kill people and turns out they are the ones that want to kill.

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 53 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (17 children)

Let's not paint Lemmy as a whole based on .ml. It is, notoriously, the dumpsterfire of the Fediverse.

Edit: Like minded people sharing and discussing is not an echochamber, at least until you start excluding good faith points of view because they challenge your beliefs.

Ignoring, downvoting and censoring bad faith rhetoric, like most of .ml, or US Maga, Russian agitprop, Chinese propaganda and similar dis/misinformation is perfectly reasonable and logical. Same goes for domestically produced bullshit.

Yes because .world is so much better lol

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Totally fair. I’ll update the post.

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[–] metakrakalaka@lemmychan.org 3 points 12 hours ago

Another day, another user gets turned on to the culture over at .ml

You don't have to interact with them if you don't want to.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is a neutral, open-minded, safe community?

A community cannot both be neutral and safe. Being safe involves picking a side and pushing back against harmful shit. Being neutral involves letting the harmful shit slide, as long as it's hate presented in a civil and polite fashion.

Which is to say, I have absolutely zero interest in a "neutral" community.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I understand this as the paradox of tolerance, but what I’m saying is neutral in bias. From responses it seems people on Lemmy understand that they’re biased.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

Yep. I'm trans. I have zero desire to exist in a space that is "neutral" to me having equal rights. I actively and deliberately choose spaces that are not neutral, and I imagine many/most marginalised communities are the same. Neutrality is not a privilege many of us can afford

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 17 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

There's a reason why .ml is defederated of many instances and so many other people have the whole instance blocked. They are... not the best of the fediverse.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 19 hours ago

Lemmy.ml isn't widely defederated to my knowledge.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is pretty tolerant compared to Reddit. Having said that, .ml is a tankie hellscape that is the lefts version of maga.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

It’s so bizarre. I wonder if they know that they’re pretty much the same people as MAGA.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 20 hours ago (11 children)

I think your missing the point of federation. If some place is crappy or you feel its run by crappy folks you can go to another or start your own. You could sorta do that on reddit but ultimately it went to a single authority. Whats nice here is I can hang or places or not. This gets back to my big thing. Blocking. Instances should avoid blocking and such as much as possible but users should do it liberally. This piss you off. Block the community so you don't accidentally engage with it in future. We literally can make the experience we want and the whole. you will put yourself in a bubble thing. thats fine. I put myself in a bubble any time I decide to hang out in place or folks in the real world or avoid places and folks. im fine with that. When the internet was smaller and not so full of trump it was maybe I wanted to see everything but now Im more looking to avoid the trumpy trump that is all over the place.

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[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

So, yeah, like everyone said .ml is horrific. Anyone I've blocked has been from there. I still haven't blocked the instance and dont plant to. .world and every other instance I've seen is absolutely a left wing echo chamber. There isn't really any conservative thought/speech here. Which is fine by me because I hear enough of that shit from my coworkers. It's really just a scale of how far left/communist/anarchist/extremist they go. .ml is comprised almost exclusively of the lattermost but the rest are a mix. I'm a liberal so I don't mind but I do recognize only one side has a seat at the table here.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Fantasizing about participating in a war is pretty shitty, regardless of whether or not non-human targets exist. You could fantasize about winning a drone racing or stunt competition to surprise people with your skill instead and look way less psychopathic.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Calling for OP's death over that fantasy is way more shitty though. And the moderators left that up.

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[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This question is hard to answer considering how low interactions with Lemmy.ml we try to have. The only good thing is that we can legally start mocking them with loosing a war in Ukraine once it is over.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

(a) In all seriousness, people, unless you're specifically into that sort of thing, just don't use lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, or lemmy.ml communities. Going there, having a bad time, and then coming back and reporting on other instances how much things suck there just wastes your time and wastes the time of people who are already avoiding those instances.

(b) If you specifically want to complain about conditions there, there's a whole community dedicated to that, !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works. Or if you want to complain specifically about moderator/admin actions, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info. Even after a year or so on Lemmy I’m still figuring things out.

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[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Here's me just chilling in the fun parts of Lemmy oblivious to whatever the fuck that shit is in those screenshots lol

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 4 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

You're right about the bias.

I propose you look for an instance that does not federate with .ml

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[–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Upvote system pushes up the main opinion, so yeah... echo chamber effect is expected

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