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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

AI will destroy jobs mostly because when the bubble bursts it’s going to destroy the global economy.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That, but also because there are a lot of white collar entry level jobs that are bullshit jobs.

[–] 123@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Agree, but I would rather that money be used in the communities that have them than being hoarded on some Scrooge McDuck offshore account.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We could always try making and distributing stuff based on what we think needs doing rather than the whims of the insane parasites bred for centuries to be optimally mad by a totally fucked system of exploitation excuses nobody who wasn't eating lead paint from an early age ever thought about for five minutes til it was too late to change like what if we just grew food and sent it where we thought people might be hungry later or are hungry now I feel like even in the messy early days where we figure stuff out it still wouldn't be worse than this and way less volatile there's stuff we all agree we need why not just like go try and make it and do it and stuff

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't, there's no way AI will actually be able to do even a fraction of what it's makers claim it can.

[–] gopher@programming.dev 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter what the actual capabilities are. What matters is what leaders in companies think they can do. And boy are there many companies drinking the AI kool-aid.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It eventually matters, can't run an economy on vibes forever.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Can do it long enough to kill enough people to pretend your supposedly closed loop bunker won't be breached and climate change will finish off the rest this is not a sustainable move its them moving to the end game not necessarily rationally but since when does that matter they drank their own flavor aid snorted their own propaganda and can't make the compromises aren't smart enough to play the game to reproduce their hegemony these aren't Bismarck's and louvetures they're right-posadists and postmillenial dispensationalist capitalist neufeudalists

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

It does matter, because the work these people do actually needs to be done, and AI just doesn't have the capability.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

So you're under the impression that capitalists are concerned with reality here? When did that last occur?

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No it can't really do anything but if you're an idiot who never looks close it looks like it can and explaining takes a while and there's a lot of very rich liars who you can point to if you want to use it as an excuse to fire people fundamentally restructure the economy to be more anti human for the not rich so less people are allowed to exist have nice things live nice lives have a say in the world and have agency in how stuff functions by virtue of being involved and isn't that what really matters at the end of the day

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe get an AI to punctuate your sentences?

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 4 days ago

What's my name

[–] Redditisbollocks@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most also think fascism is normal, Starmers done a shite job, and paint red crosses on roundabouts.

The British public are not to be trusted.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 4 days ago

Well they're right about two things the starmer and cocaine being a hell of a drug

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 days ago

"Lets ask the common man in the streets about something he knows nothing about!"

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In the same way that power drills put carpenters out of business, lol

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Better tools didn't put carpenters out of business, it made less skilled labor seem faster and better at their jobs. This caused labor rates to go down, quality of work to go down, overall cost to go down, overall prices stayed the same or went up, manufacturing of tools created jobs and better tools created jobs.

Better tools had consequences, but "AI" is literally replacing humans with the goal of replacing humans and tracking the ones that are still working. "AI" is being built for Execs and those in power to eliminate employees while increasing control over everyone.

It's "progress", so people doing tedious jobs that could be automated should fear for their jobs, they will be the first to go. The IT desk at my employer has already been cut to 1/3 of what it used to be.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Your post is riddled with so many randomly interjected false statements its wild.

You've built your paragraphs on top of a foundation riddled with holes.

If you actually believe half of what you just said, I have to assume you have literally zero experience with carpentry lol.

[–] Darnton@piefed.zip 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Power drills were actually an improvement over hand drills. AI does things shittier than humans, but CEOs are of the mistaken impression that AI is cheaper (it isn't, and AI prices are on an exponential rise). So your analogy lacks in all departments.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Power drills were actually an improvement over hand drills. AI does things shittier than humans

In the same way that a person without any skill can fuck up their project 10x faster with a power drill, absolutely.

However, with training and actual skill with the tool, real actual training, it is indisputably faster by an enormous amount.

Any types of studies that have tried to indicate otherwise are always putting the tools in the hands of totally untrained people and going "wow look at him this person who has 0 training on how to use a power drill proceeds to fuck up their project!!!" As if its some gotcha, and then people cling to that as proof AI sucks.

Meanwhile people who actually knows wtf they are doing with it are indisputably pumping out probably better results.

The problem is in this case any random idiot with 0 skill can go grab a power drill with 2 button clicks and start drilling random holes in shit.

So you get a problem of 99% of uses you see are the "random holes from idiots" who have no idea wtf they are doing.

It takes genuine work to get actually good with these tools. Its not as easy as idiots have tried to make it look. You have a fair bit of domain knowledge you have to train on to get competent with it.

  • understanding x shot prompting
  • understanding the reinforcement problem and how to avoid it
  • understanding how context windows work
  • understanding how MCP tooling works and how to avoid context bloat on it
  • understanding skills and skill scripts and how to use them right while avoiding context bloat
  • understanding agentic systems and how to orchestrate agents well

Thats just the baseline, which is already multiple entire courses of knowledge just to get the basics.

People opening up fuckin gippity and zero context prompting stuff is such utter bottom of the barrel garbage, but its what people are comparing real AI backed work against.

The reality is, its an unbelievably powerful tool that takes easily ~1 year of practice to even get moderately skilled with to stop producing garbage.

... just like any other tool, you cant just pick it up and pretend you are a pro with it in a few hours.

That is the real lie that is being spread. This shit is complicated and has a lot of depth.

If you cant even have a convo on the nuance of when to choose a skill vs a tool for a task, you are not remotely qualified to even weigh in on how useful AI, you are way out of your depth on the topic.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Although the apparent effectiveness of LLM is very recent the irony of this concern is that it is exactly what we were always told. For a hundred years we were told AI would take over all the mundane tasks and free humans from the drudgery of work and now it is actually happening we are panicking. We need to stop trying to hold on to salaries from basic administration jobs and fundamentally reorganise how society is renumerated and accept our brave new world. The only fly in the ointment is that would require inspired and brave leadership and that is thin in the ground since the media weeds out all the very capable candidates as they are often very eccentric too.

[–] freshcow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That gets much more difficult when AI is used to empower the police/surveillance state that serves the interest of capitalists.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

The type of difficulty you outline is probably at its worst only short-lived and works on the assumption that the interests of a necessarily independent mature AI would align with those of the governing state or capitalists. I think in truth the sort of people that think control and power naturally rests with them are in for a rude awakening. I think the end point of AI's interaction with humanity will be egalitarian, for good or bad.

[–] StopTech@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

People rarely think through the consequences of what they wish for until it starts to come true. People are now realizing that they didn't actually want everything to be automated because it means they will lose their power and have no impact on the world. One option is to ignore this new knowledge we are waking up to and "accept our brave new world" where humans are powerless and have no purpose other than to serve machines. The other is to fix our mistakes, abolish the technology and go back to the old ways of living which our ancestors were much happier under.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

No you just have to fucking kill billionaires an tyrants.

The issue isn't technology, its authoritarianism and capitalism.

[–] StopTech@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't think that fixed things in the French or Russian revolutions, it actually made things worse. Kill the billionaires and new ones will take their place. Before you destroy the old system you need a new one that is better and additionally prevents the old system coming back.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

The biggest mistake billionaires are making is the belief their wealth and acknowledged development of rudimentary AI will give them any special privilege with emerging autonomous inorganic intelligence.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's better